maybe someone can get off their ass and fund some facilities

Post #429,472 by boxley 6/19/19 9:23:26 PM 6/19/19 9:23:26 PM Reply	maybe someone can get off their ass and fund some facilities "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #429,476 by drook 6/19/19 10:55:15 PM 6/19/19 10:55:31 PM Reply	Funding isn't the problem You're right that there's no funding, but that's intentional. They want to make it so horrible that people stop coming. -- Drew Edited by drook June 19, 2019, 10:55:31 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #429,478 by Another Scott 6/19/19 11:30:21 PM 6/19/19 11:30:21 PM Reply	Yup. https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/homeland-security/389022-whatever-isnt-an-option-for-immigrant-children [...] [3 year old] Jose and thousands of children like him are the faces, names and stories impacted by recent actions taken by the Trump administration to reduce the number of families and children crossing the southern border. These policies include “referring 100 percent of illegal Southwest Border crossings to the Department of Justice for prosecution,” as Attorney General Jeff Sessions said in a recent speech. These “zero tolerance” measures mean that more parents will end up in criminal jails while their children are placed into group homes or foster care. John Kelly acknowledged in a recent interview with NPR that family separation “could be a tough deterrent” to illegal immigration. In that same interview, the White House chief of staff argued that it wasn’t cruel and heartless to take children like Jose away from their parents because, “The children will be taken care of – put into foster care or whatever.” Community organizations like Bethany stand ready to help these children find loving, temporary foster homes. We were disturbed, however, to learn what Kelly meant when he said “whatever”—and it isn’t what is best for children. Citing an email sent to staff at the Pentagon, the Washington Post recently revealed that the Trump administration is preparing to hold immigrant children at military bases. Unaccompanied immigrant children or children who have been separated from their parents by the government could be housed at four military bases currently being reviewed by the Department of Health and Human Services. Being ripped away from parents is already a significant trauma for children. Staff at Bethany and the foster families we partner with are picking up the pieces caused by distressing separations every day. The trauma will only be compounded by placements outside of a loving home. [...] https://twitter.com/HeatherWeaverDC/status/1141522155747905541 Heather Lynn Weaver @ HeatherWeaverDC ATTENTION: The party that coined the term "death panels" in an effort to sink the ACA kindly asks that you stop referring to their immigrant detention camps as "concentration camps." 6:44 PM - 19 Jun 2019 Yup. Trump's people want the freedom to break international law, to cage children and parents, to not have any process for keeping track of thousands of children separated from their parents, and all the rest. They don't care. (sigh) Cheers, Scott.
Post #429,480 by Ashton 6/20/19 5:03:19 AM 6/20/19 5:03:19 AM Reply	So then.. what are Your (personal) Odds? re "a dis-US Election being held" in 11/2020? Perhaps we can agree that: ALL the unicorns have been slaughtered, publicly. 17 months left for (whatever artifice-equivalent of?) The Reichstag Fire, say.
Post #429,483 by TB D 6/20/19 5:27:57 AM 6/20/19 5:27:57 AM Reply	Re: Funding isn't the problem Cannot happen. These people are refugees because the USA broke their governments. We broke it, we bought it.
Post #429,502 by Ashton 6/20/19 5:43:20 PM 6/20/19 5:43:20 PM Reply	¡Precísamente! amigo! ¡Que lastima!--ongoing, as the chickens come home to Roost (if roasted first)
Post #429,508 by boxley 6/20/19 11:26:34 PM 6/20/19 11:26:34 PM Reply	eh? the admin is not the problem so you are saying the dems by blocking funding think that will stop people coming? At least 5 asks were done this past year and $one was denied by the congress. Dont give me any wall crap either. There was distinct asks for funding for space, denied by pelosi et al "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #429,593 by CRConrad 6/27/19 9:52:48 AM 6/27/19 9:52:48 AM Reply	"ICE facilities with beds and food are EMPTY, because the Trump administration is moving refugees.." https://twitter.com/ECMcLaughlin/status/1139192178247266304 RTFA much? -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #429,595 by boxley 6/27/19 11:35:09 AM 6/27/19 11:35:09 AM Reply	if they are empty why is everyone whining about overcrowding? I dont use twats as a primary news source, besides the fema camps need to be used for something "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #429,597 by CRConrad 6/27/19 11:55:49 AM 6/27/19 11:55:49 AM Reply	Sorry, I know you can read (don't care if you have to mouth it out loud), so you're just... ...doing your usual bullshit: Pretending not to get it. 1) The actual indoor facilities are being kept empty because they're civilian. Civilian facilities are accessible to human rights observers. 2) The temporary concentration camps are presumably overcrowded because they're either: - a) Just not big enough, or - b) ...can't ship their prisoners out to military facilities fast enough. 3) The reason for wanting to ship these civilian concentration camp prisoners to military facilities, in tead of the available civilian ones with roofs (and who knows, maybe even luxuries like soap. And food), is that military facilities are not accessible to human rights observers. Idunno, I would have thought most people could connect the dots here. And see that the big problem about all of this isn't really "overcrowding", per se. But yeah, should have known whom we could trust to (pretend to) not get it. I would have been tempted to quote J. N. Welch... Except I know the answer already: You don't. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #429,598 by boxley 6/27/19 12:17:57 PM 6/27/19 12:17:57 PM Reply	?? "1) The actual indoor facilities are being kept empty because they're civilian." ok uh sure. 3III. Short-Term Detention CBP has many facilities throughout the United States to support mission-critical operations, most of which include short-term hold rooms. The terms “short-term custody facilities,”“hold rooms,”“processing centers,” and “detention rooms” are synonymous and used interchangeably among CBP personnel. For the purpose of detention, a person in CBP custody is detained for the length of time that is necessary for CBP to complete an interview, collect biographic and biometric data, run record checks, complete required case paperwork, determine disposition, andadmit and/or release the individual or transfer him/her to another agency’s custody and you claim each and everyone of these is empty, pull the other one https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/CBP%20-%20Short-Term%20Detention%20Standards%20and%20Oversight.pdf "Civilian facilities are accessible to human rights observers." DHS facilities are not open to anyone, not even congress critters without prior approval. A visit beyond the front desk requires a lot of paperwork and approvals. "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #429,608 by Ashton 6/27/19 5:02:11 PM 6/27/19 5:02:11 PM Reply	In all your posts ... you Omit the Fact that this "administration" thrives on chaos--perfectly mirroring the physical-loss of a hippocampus of its Führer: it is their inescapable condition, derived from the (also-inescapable) chaos-within the deraged brain-pan of Their Dear Leader. And You: perpetually look to minutiae, oft from ravenously-putrid-Sources: to pretend to convince a normal person? that ~~ This Emperor rilly Wears! ..those invisible clothes over his {ugh} naked Super-ego. There's a huge cadre of professionals who deal with such cognitive dissonance. (But they ain't cheap.)
Post #429,609 by boxley 6/27/19 6:08:09 PM 6/27/19 6:08:09 PM Reply	this administration couldnt put out a fire in a rainstorm 3 people deep, then the pros take over to do the work. Last Month 144k people showed up in the MCallen TX Border section. That is the size of a small city arriving in 30 days. Only today was funding approved to take care of this burst of people and that will take time to filter to the border. Yes it is a fucking mess and we have to clean it up but this issue has been known about for 10 years and everyone dem and repo has been shouting and pouting and not doing a dam thing to fix it "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #429,607 by Ashton 6/27/19 4:50:07 PM 6/27/19 4:50:07 PM Reply	This quote? Face reality as it is, not as it was or as you wish it to be.?? Besides that though: 'Scale and Relativity' ... that perspicuity so-lacking in most homo-saps extant. How Does? one riposte to a person demonstrably reading legalese-script of How They Should Operate (merely implying-at-all-definitions that, They Do operate 'humanely' (!!) --a conclusion as, demonstrably-Now: is both bogus AND fatuous--given that Their Leader could not define "humanely" --via any of his previous experience since-birth. He Is: Roy Cohn II, the same as brought-him-up feral. Trying to 'splain such a digital-think Proposition would seem to be not unlike Nailing-Jello-to-a-Wall, the 'How-to'. As to: Why proffer? repeatedly, so much bogosity (such as simply elides the pictorial, verbal, written accounts extant) Fuck if I know, but it seems unCurable. One can merely await Dr. Jekyll ..until Mr. Hyde evanesces? But there's always the [Shun] option.

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