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https://www.balloon-juice.com/2019/02/27/the-senate-the-2020-democratic-primary-and-health-plans/

Yup, yup, yup.

And wvng makes an excellent point too.

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wvng says:
February 27, 2019 at 7:49 am

David, this point is critical: “Under one branch of highly plausible scenarios, the winning coalition of 51 votes in the Senate will have Senator Manchin (D-WV) as a key member of the winning coalition…” Democrats will always be constrained by the limits blue dogs place on policy, even when they have a substantial majority. And the only way Dems get that majority is by running conservative Democrats in red states and winning those seats. That has been the case since Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act and lost the South for, as it turns out, much more than a generation. Blue dogs constrained every piece of legislation Obama was able to pass while Dems held both houses, and they will continue to do so in the future because leadership has no leverage over them.


Yup.

The way to get more liberal policies isn't to elect more pure people, it's to elect more people that share roughly the same goals. That way, the outliers (more conservative Democrats) don't have as much individual power over policy. When every vote is necessary, there are lots of choke points.

Cheers,
Scott.
New For "pure" == "soulless conservatives committed to the status quo".
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New It's easy to kibitz when you don't have to actually vote on real legislation...
New rofl lets check another famous senators record shall we?
2004 Kate Mullany National Historic Site Act
2006 A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at
2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the
"Major George Quamo Post Office Building"
2008 A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A,
located in Orchard Park, New York, as the
"Timothy J. Russert Highway"
Very impressive! Presidential material indeed!
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Is he wrong?
Given the choice between replacing the 10 most conservative Democratic senators with Lefty McLeftersons, or replacing any 10 Republican senators with moderate Democrats, which do you think would lead to more progressive policies being passed?
--

Drew
New Depends on your definition of "less than".
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
     218 - 51 - 1 - 5 - (Another Scott) - (5)
         For "pure" == "soulless conservatives committed to the status quo". -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4)
             It's easy to kibitz when you don't have to actually vote on real legislation... -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 rofl lets check another famous senators record shall we? - (boxley)
             Is he wrong? - (drook) - (1)
                 Depends on your definition of "less than". -NT - (mmoffitt)

Anything that ugly should die and be eaten at breakfast.
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