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New Re: But don't count on prices falling to "affordable" levels in areas where people want to live.
I'm not counting on that. I'm only pointing out that until/unless that happens, there's going to be huge chunks of our population in those "areas where people want to live" for which home ownership will be completely out of the question indefinitely.

I also think it's worth asking one's self, "Cui bono?" When we bought our first house in 1985, I remember looking at the mortgage papers, specifically the total price we were going to pay for our $29,000 home and nearly fainting. Take a 50 year old home anywhere in the U.S. Think about how many mortgages have been written for that home and how much in payments to banksters that property has generated. Looking at a more recent example, we built our house in 2000 for $225,000 on a raw lakefront lot we'd owned for about ten years. If we hold our tongues right and I remain healthy, we'll have finally paid off that mortgage in the early Spring of next year. I just did a quick estimate of how much we've paid the bank for that $225,000 house and it currently totals more than $350,000. That's already > 50% ROI for the bankster class in 18 years and they literally did nothing for it. Now multiply that by the number of homes on our 170 acre lake. It gets worse for those dwellings in "the places people want to live". My dad's first house in California cost $15,000 in 1964. Some banksters have written mortgages on it for up to $500,000 and collected mortgage payments for that 15K house in the past 54 years.

The amount of money banksters make from these hyperinflated home prices is breathtaking. Houses are almost continuously mortgaged and the banksters like it that way. It is their way, with apologies to Mark Knopfler, to make "Money for Nothin'".

It won't stop until we all stop living for the benefit of the bankster class. And that will never happen in this country.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Um, do you have any bonds?
Banksters use other people's money. You and your neighbors give them money to get interest. One of the ways the banksters earn money for their depositors is via mortgages.

If it's such a great business, why don't more people cut out the middle man and provide mortgages themselves??

You know this.

The problems with housing and mortgages isn't the S&L banksters giving out 4-5% 30 year mortgages, it's the CDOs and so forth, the PMI scam, and the lack of affordable housing (zoning, NIMBY, etc.).

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: why don't more people cut out the middle man and provide mortgages themselves?
Seriously? Ever heard of a bank charter? They give those out like candy, do they?
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Re: why don't more people cut out the middle man and provide mortgages themselves?
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/seller-financing-home-sales-30164.html

Seller financing can be a useful tool in a tight credit market. It allows sellers to move a home faster and get a sizable return on the investment. And buyers may benefit from less stringent qualifying and down payment requirements, more flexible rates, and better loan terms on a home that otherwise might be out of reach.

Sellers willing to take on the role of financier represent only a small fraction of all sellers -- typically less than 10%. That's because the deal is not without legal, financial, and logistical hurdles. But by taking the right precautions and getting professional help, sellers can reduce the inherent risks.

[...]


HTH!

:-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: why don't more people cut out the middle man and provide mortgages themselves?
Ah! So, all I have to do is have enough money to purchase several tens of thousands of homes so that I will be the Seller in each case and then I don't have to be a bank to make the outrageous sums that the bankster class does on home mortgages.

I completely understand now and apologize for my lack of imagination.

;0)
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
     Hey Peter, do you believe Carney's right about property values with no-deal? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (18)
         Sort of. I think there's a bit of exaggeration for effect. - (pwhysall) - (17)
             Never heard of that help-to-buy racket - (drook) - (14)
                 It's not that people lose their homes... - (pwhysall) - (13)
                     Careful with that "appreciates" assumption. Too much of that gave us the 08/09 crisis. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                         A symptom, not a cause. - (pwhysall) - (11)
                             I see your point. - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                                 It's probably more complex over there than it is over here. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                     As are most things. We haven't many adults running things here. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                 Location, Location, Location. - (Another Scott) - (7)
                                     Wait a second. Are you saying that income inequality is the most pressing issue? :0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                         Voting is the most pressing issue. But there are many, many other important ones... -NT - (Another Scott)
                                     Re: But don't count on prices falling to "affordable" levels in areas where people want to live. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                         Um, do you have any bonds? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                             Re: why don't more people cut out the middle man and provide mortgages themselves? - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                 Re: why don't more people cut out the middle man and provide mortgages themselves? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     Re: why don't more people cut out the middle man and provide mortgages themselves? - (mmoffitt)
             Thanks! That's inline with what I think about Southern California's prices. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                 Re: Thanks! That's inline with what I think about Southern California's prices. - (pwhysall)

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