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New In my defense.
I just re-read those comments. I think it's important to recall that I had a lot more faith in Americans when I wrote that than I do now. Trump's presidency has created the amount of harm that I thought he'd probably be able to pull off in two terms, not two years. And that, I thought back then, would be enough for people to flood the streets. But Americans are xenophobic, vapid creatures on the whole and there is an argument to be made that we actually deserve Trump notwithstanding the fact that in 2015 I had far too much faith in the American People and my misguided belief that they would actually rebel against right wing horror if only they could see it clearly enough.

If they don't see it now and are not moved to strike against it, they never will. Someone once said before the 2016 election that they didn't know if Trump would be the next President, but that he would be our last. If I were still living in California, I'd be working my ass off for the Calexit movement.

I don't think we can recover from Trump. I think we have to look at other nations to help us. The comedian Johnny Vegas has suggested and excellent idea. (Context: they've been discussing Melanoma's jacket and the US locking up children. The whole thing's only 4 minutes and worth watching, but my link cuts to the point I'm attempting to make here.)
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New You're still doing it.
You're letting them win by refusing to accept that politics is all about compromise and imperfect solutions, incremental progress, and protecting (and building upon) past imperfect solutions.

Join us in the fight and stop sitting on the sidelines while the monsters try to wreck everything!!

They only win when too many good people don't do anything.

(sigh)

Cheers,
Scott.
New I don't think I'll be joining any effort to "incrementally" make America any better.
Why? Because Americans do not deserve any better. My kids were not raised to believe that this is the greatest nation on earth because "America", so while I may not live long enough to see both of them flee I do believe neither of them will draw their last breaths as Americans. And that gives me great comfort. Of course, if the country breaks up (a possibility more likely I think now than at any time since the 1860's), they might stay in one of the saner nation states that emerge from this atrocious wreckage.

What I see now more vividly than ever before is that it is not ignorance that makes 21st century America such a wretched place, it is Americans that make it such a wretched place. Americans cannot be salvaged, nor do they deserve salvation.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Then, unfortunately, you are an enabler of those who want to turn back the clock. :-(
Purity kills.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Well then, while your chops as Perfect-Prophet were, in '15 ~~as imperfect as the others
Methinks that, just this One utterly-prescient 'take' earns you a Get Outta Jail pass ... for the thread:


Someone once said before the 2016 election that they didn't know if Trump would be the next President, but that he would be our last. If I were still living in California, I'd be working my ass off for the Calexit movement.



(A query I'm submitting elsewhere, then):

In some ‘Venn diagram”, say: what overlap might there be re a “Failed-State” and a “Rogue-State” ? in whatever present argot works.
(If we are to preserve any remaining integrity in Language next, it’s best to find a common [Referent] for any of the Larger words, isn’t it?)
New Just checked the link.. as Boffo a recap as one might wish ..while-cringing at its truthiness
It was hard to decipher the accent, but the speaker put into perfect perspective:
HOW CAN ANY COUNTRY? ... after now 1.5 YEARS of this insane/wretched-human, even imagine-possible:
ANY SANE RELATIONSHIP with the dis-USA??, now seen so nakedly by anyone capable of Reason
from age ~8-10? --> on up to dotards (but still Conscious ones.)

Remembering-for-just-one:
Orange-boy fondling that swinky Glowing-Globe in that custom-staged skit by the egregiously-also-Fucked-country: The Saudi-prison-house ...
now engaged with AIrplane-Murder-by-Murican-Collaboration in prolly one of the greater War Crimes ever--someday--to be adjudicated.

And yes--and still--ever since Ronnie revealed his shallowness and Despicables-membership with "Greed is Good", America-inmates
have earned the obloquy which, I believe: never Shall be erased?/overcome?/FORGIVEN! ... at least until there are All New People™
(if 'America' hasn't been split two or three ways into permanently-warring-factions.)
Or has just fully-joined all the smaller Failed-States as an also-too worldwide Pariah.



tl;dr We. Suck. [That could be overcome.. with great diligence. Except for the millions who Take Pride in Suckiness, now a plurality.]
     Get your armbands and boots now while they last! - (mmoffitt) - (24)
         Yes, the Trifecta COMPLETES: Two-Nations under one Tyrant.. Unless.. - (Ashton)
         "Memories, like the corners of my mind, misty water colored memories, ..." - (Another Scott) - (6)
             In my defense. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                 You're still doing it. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     I don't think I'll be joining any effort to "incrementally" make America any better. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         Then, unfortunately, you are an enabler of those who want to turn back the clock. :-( - (Another Scott)
                 Well then, while your chops as Perfect-Prophet were, in '15 ~~as imperfect as the others - (Ashton)
                 Just checked the link.. as Boffo a recap as one might wish ..while-cringing at its truthiness - (Ashton)
         How fortunate it is… - (rcareaga) - (9)
             It just needs to be said. - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                 Yup. -NT - (rcareaga)
                 (dup, somehow) -NT - (rcareaga)
                 Bullshit. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                     You didn't think Obama would win Indiana. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         And he didn’t in 2012. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     I was speaking of a class . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         . - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                             Well.. ... - (Ashton)
         Pretty quiet here, in these parts as.. - (Ashton) - (5)
             I had to get away. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                 Nit - (drook) - (3)
                     3 things, you forgot get high -NT - (boxley)
                     Not my experience in other parts of the world. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     The McGuffin is: our Puritan roots. - (Ashton)

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