Resigned to never win the White House again are you?

We tried it your way in 2016. Your way doesn't work. If you want to have another President elected in 2020 who also did not win the popular vote, keep on keepin' on.

Racism ain't just a Southern/Mid Western thing, ya know? Ever heard of this popular guy in Arizona with a last name of Arpaio? As for knuckle-draggers, how about Rohrabacher? Do you know him? Devin Nunes? Kevin McCarthy? Darrell Issa? And let's not ever forget which state gave us his holiness Saint Ronald Rayguns.

I can't say I disagree with the assertion that about half of the US populace (at least half of those who vote in our elections) are irredeemable. But where you err bigly is in the assumption that we don't need the assistance of the handful of semi-reasonable people in the deplorable states to win elections. You have to at least give those people some measure of hope. Campaigning on telling them that they'll never have it as well as their parents or grandparents, that they are all deplorable and irredeemable, or just never coming to talk to them at all (a.k.a. Wisconsin) is not a winning strategy. At least that much should have been gleaned from 2016.

But you cannot completely ignore the concerns of the WWC and expect to win the Electoral College as this table indicates.

Sadly, 2016 suggests that when it comes to courting White voters, appealing to their rampant sexism and racism is highly effective. I'm not for a single nanosecond suggesting we do that. But we can support Progressive causes that would appeal to them. Here's a fer instance. You claim "affordable college" is superior to "free tuition" because there are a lot of people with student debt. How about just erasing it for all the people that attended State Colleges and Universities? If you owe a bunch of money to a private college (the Ivys, Vandy, etc.) we use Hillary's plan. If you owe UCLA, IU, Purdue, etc. you owe nothing because just as we did with the banks, we'll print the money to pay the universities off. If you were unfortunate enough to go to DeVry, UoP, Grand Canyon or any of the other diploma mills and you owe them, you're debt free and they can close (they'll get paid back what their "degrees" were worth, IOW). You say all that during the campaign and it will fall upon receptive ears in the MidWest (and the coasts for that matter). Even if you can't pull all of it off, at least potential WWC voters will know you are trying to help them. Why campaign on "It's all pie in the sky (even though your parents had it). I'm going to take your mining jobs away. If you want Universal Health Coverage, you can get it but not until you're 65."?

Post #424,237 by mmoffitt 6/13/18 8:58:26 AM 6/13/18 8:58:26 AM Reply	Resigned to never win the White House again are you? We tried it your way in 2016. Your way doesn't work. If you want to have another President elected in 2020 who also did not win the popular vote, keep on keepin' on. Racism ain't just a Southern/Mid Western thing, ya know? Ever heard of this popular guy in Arizona with a last name of Arpaio? As for knuckle-draggers, how about Rohrabacher? Do you know him? Devin Nunes? Kevin McCarthy? Darrell Issa? And let's not ever forget which state gave us his holiness Saint Ronald Rayguns. I can't say I disagree with the assertion that about half of the US populace (at least half of those who vote in our elections) are irredeemable. But where you err bigly is in the assumption that we don't need the assistance of the handful of semi-reasonable people in the deplorable states to win elections. You have to at least give those people some measure of hope. Campaigning on telling them that they'll never have it as well as their parents or grandparents, that they are all deplorable and irredeemable, or just never coming to talk to them at all (a.k.a. Wisconsin) is not a winning strategy. At least that much should have been gleaned from 2016. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #424,242 by Another Scott 6/13/18 11:33:16 AM 6/13/18 11:33:16 AM Reply	IOW, keep ignoring the people disenfranchised to chase the WWC??
Post #424,244 by mmoffitt 6/13/18 12:06:28 PM 6/13/18 12:06:28 PM Reply	Not at all. But you cannot completely ignore the concerns of the WWC and expect to win the Electoral College as this table indicates. Sadly, 2016 suggests that when it comes to courting White voters, appealing to their rampant sexism and racism is highly effective. I'm not for a single nanosecond suggesting we do that. But we can support Progressive causes that would appeal to them. Here's a fer instance. You claim "affordable college" is superior to "free tuition" because there are a lot of people with student debt. How about just erasing it for all the people that attended State Colleges and Universities? If you owe a bunch of money to a private college (the Ivys, Vandy, etc.) we use Hillary's plan. If you owe UCLA, IU, Purdue, etc. you owe nothing because just as we did with the banks, we'll print the money to pay the universities off. If you were unfortunate enough to go to DeVry, UoP, Grand Canyon or any of the other diploma mills and you owe them, you're debt free and they can close (they'll get paid back what their "degrees" were worth, IOW). You say all that during the campaign and it will fall upon receptive ears in the MidWest (and the coasts for that matter). Even if you can't pull all of it off, at least potential WWC voters will know you are trying to help them. Why campaign on "It's all pie in the sky (even though your parents had it). I'm going to take your mining jobs away. If you want Universal Health Coverage, you can get it but not until you're 65."? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.

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