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Post #423,499
by Another Scott
4/28/18 10:12:51 PM
4/28/18 10:29:14 PM
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New Thanks.
One of the things I read about the Sonys that makes me nervous is all the criticisms of the menus. They've apparently gotten better over time, but the A7 is nearly 4 years old. The A7RII is twice the price, and the A7RIII is even more. :-/

Plus there are lots of complaints about Sony cameras overheating. :-( Yeah, squeaky wheel, etc. But it makes me nervous.

But it's good to look at it again before seriously considering spending so much. So thanks!

Yikes...

[edit:] I see I'm mixing up cameras. The Rs are 40+MP, the non-Rs are 24 MP. There's an A7RIII but the A7III isn't out yet - rumors were indicating it would be $1999 body only and out this April. The A7II is 3+ years old.

Ouch...

Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #423,502
by scoenye
4/29/18 12:23:16 AM
4/29/18 12:23:16 AM
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New Things in that class age well
20MP is sufficient for A2 prints. Noise was a non-issue even 2 years ago, unless you plan on a lot of work at high ISO settings. The quality of the lenses is going to have a much bigger impact than a more recent body.

(I [finally] got my hands on a Canon 5D2 when my semi-pro neighbor went mirrorless. Even at 9 years, I haven't found anything to want for yet and the thing will probably [well, hopefully... ;-)] outlast me.)
Post #423,505
by Another Scott
4/29/18 8:35:31 AM
4/29/18 8:35:31 AM
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New Yup. Good points.
It wouldn't be as much of an issue if I knew I would be using it regularly and thus would get the muscle memory for the menus, reprogramming the buttons, etc. But that's not going to be the case (for a few years at least). And the overheating...

Don't get me wrong - Sony's been making some compelling cameras. And "full frame" has lots of advantages (if you don't need/want large zoom ranges, and can afford it).

But they're just not compelling enough to make me jump just yet. :-) But nothing else is either at the moment.

Thanks again.

Cheers,
Scott.
     I'm getting the new camera itchy bug again... - (Another Scott) - (33) - April 8, 2018, 03:27:23 PM EDT
         Overkill! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - April 8, 2018, 10:23:39 PM EDT
         Canon M5 with 15-150 lens? M6 with 15-150 lens? Peter? - (Another Scott) - (31) - April 28, 2018, 12:35:52 PM EDT
             Zooks. This is turning into a nightmare... - (Another Scott) - (30) - April 28, 2018, 06:27:23 PM EDT
                 have a semi pro photog at work - (boxley) - (2) - April 28, 2018, 08:42:02 PM EDT
                     Yeah, but Pros get paid! :-) Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - April 28, 2018, 10:13:28 PM EDT
                     That's only true for medium format - (pwhysall) - April 30, 2018, 05:51:53 PM EDT
                 Given the D's are in play and Sony's in the picture too... - (scoenye) - (4) - April 28, 2018, 08:54:23 PM EDT
                     Thanks. - (Another Scott) - (2) - April 28, 2018, 10:29:14 PM EDT
                         Things in that class age well - (scoenye) - (1) - April 29, 2018, 12:23:16 AM EDT
                             Yup. Good points. - (Another Scott) - April 29, 2018, 08:35:31 AM EDT
                     Sony cameras are technical marvels - (pwhysall) - April 30, 2018, 06:11:21 PM EDT
                 Can't do it tonight. We'll see if it makes sense in the future. - (Another Scott) - April 28, 2018, 10:46:33 PM EDT
                 You only need two lenses for travel toggery. - (pwhysall) - (4) - April 30, 2018, 06:09:51 PM EDT
                     Thanks for all the info. - (Another Scott) - (3) - May 1, 2018, 08:29:11 AM EDT
                         A polariser will not fix your exposure issues - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 1, 2018, 08:59:51 AM EDT
                             We've talked about some of this before. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 1, 2018, 10:24:18 AM EDT
                                 Re: We've talked about some of this before. - (pwhysall) - May 1, 2018, 10:43:01 AM EDT
                 Still can't do it. - (Another Scott) - (15) - May 2, 2018, 11:54:52 PM EDT
                     Or $20-odd for the thing you actually need - (pwhysall) - (14) - May 3, 2018, 01:28:12 AM EDT
                         I got a copy on your recommendation a few years ago. - (Another Scott) - (13) - May 3, 2018, 06:45:19 AM EDT
                             The camera is not what limits you - (pwhysall) - (12) - May 3, 2018, 07:04:21 AM EDT
                                 Thanks.. - (Ashton) - (4) - May 3, 2018, 04:11:02 PM EDT
                                     ALICE? - (Another Scott) - May 3, 2018, 11:06:24 PM EDT
                                     You do know tha Ansel Adams used dodging and burning? - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - May 3, 2018, 11:32:08 PM EDT
                                         Knew dat, but tmi is upon us all :-) - (Ashton) - May 4, 2018, 07:48:47 PM EDT
                                         He had to - (pwhysall) - May 5, 2018, 01:17:24 PM EDT
                                 Thanks. - (Another Scott) - (6) - May 5, 2018, 03:14:49 PM EDT
                                     Have fun! -NT - (scoenye) - May 4, 2018, 07:28:13 PM EDT
                                     Enjoy it - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 5, 2018, 01:16:16 PM EDT
                                         I'll do my best. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 5, 2018, 03:13:15 PM EDT
                                             Monopods aren't any good for long exps - (pwhysall) - May 5, 2018, 04:36:29 PM EDT
                                     For what it's worth, Consumer Reports just "check rated" Canon PowerShot G3X. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - May 6, 2018, 05:57:41 PM EDT
                                         Thanks. - (Another Scott) - May 6, 2018, 08:31:18 PM EDT

Better than a VBF, any day of the week.
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