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New surely it would have been worse…
had the Dread Butch Hillary been selected to the presidency? Isn’t it great that the contradictions have been heightened, and that the Socialist Millennium has been thus far advanced on your daughters’ behalf? Aren’t you glad you joined the online chorus vilifying the DBH? Aren’t you?

It’ll get worse. And your stance in the last election cycle aligned a little bit with the circumstances that have contributed to our present plight. Until you acknowledge that, your protestations of horror will have to be discounted somewhat.

cordially,
New November will be the first real indicator of any hoped for improvement.
Did I vilify HRC or was she already vilified by endless most oft unjust criticism of her by the RNC knuckle dragging crowd? She had no chance of winning the flyover region and that was obvious to anyone paying attention. You can't win the Presidency without carrying at least some of the flyover states (OH, PA, MI, WI come to mind). I said early on that Bernie had a chance to win Indiana, but HRC never would. I recall even that being questioned.

You want me to concede that my pointing such things out and pointing them out early was somehow in part responsible for the situation we're in now? I guess there's no harm in admitting to a falsehood. Since you showed the poor taste to inject them here, my daughters (with whom I arguably have the most influence wrt political matters) both voted for HRC. Had I done so, HRC would have lost Indiana by 524,159 votes instead of 524,160. A fact that does not comport with your assertion that my "stance in the last election cycle aligned a little bit with the circumstances that have contributed to our present plight." It didn't align at all. On the contrary, the fact that you voted for her in the primary aligned far more with the events that led to our circumstances today.

I am encouraged by things like the "March for Our Lives" and the many protest marches that have occurred this past year. This week's WI Supreme Court election, AL and PA's earlier special elections also offer some signs of hope that would, in my view, be absent had HRC won. So maybe the "heightened differences" are having an effect after all?
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New I’ll give you this:
This week's WI Supreme Court election, AL and PA's earlier special elections also offer some signs of hope that would, in my view, be absent had HRC won.
That may well be true. Indeed, the folks over at “Lawyers, Guns & Money” have a lively counterfactual thread going this week on the same theme. Certainly the horrific spectacle of the commonweal being sacked has served to focus the attention of a certain number of people who might have subscribed two years ago to the “no difference between the two parties” codswallop. Whether the raising of consciousness will compensate for the vandalism at present being committed will depend not merely on the number of consciousnesses raised, the altitudes thereby attained and the concomitant participation in November, but also, contrariwise, on the degree of irreparable injury inflicted upon the society by these brigands before their riot begins to be curtailed.

cordially,
New In the final analysis, there is a fundmental flaw in all democracies.
My friend and airplane mechanic likes to say, "No matter how you define intelligence, half the people are below average." And therein is the fatal flaw of democracies. In British and US democracies, the people with below average intelligence have an equal say in how we are governed as the people with higher than average intelligence. That is how we end up with Brexit and Trump.

Given the plight of our democracy, I think it would be wise to take advantage of the public records to identify the irredeemably stupid and prohibit them from voting. A good start at purging the unwise from our voter registration rolls would be to check just two available records: reported household income with IRS and party affiliation in voter registration. Anyone with household income less than $400.000/year and has registered as a Republican has proven themselves incapable of forming well considered opinions and should consequently face a lifetime ban on voting.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Hillary got substantially more votes. Just sayin'...
New Basically, its the 10% at the midpoint that matter.
New Did she get a star for that?
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New well she used to get 5 stars, now she is down label
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New There are too many oxymoronic attributes at work, though
The ~same bunch who don’t believe in the math, stats and other research into climate change … assiduously Believe in the relationship of one’s Financial Stats: as harbingers of your superior-homo-sap er, Status. Fav of My Gramma’s koans, for ex.: “Those big men in Washington know more than you do!” (alas moi’s juvenile mind had not yet conceived the riposte, “cha. cha. cha.”)
’s OK though, just another elderly White supremacist talking to herself.

Even Will Shakespeare could not convert those immune to language logically spake; even KISS is a multi-edged sword. Alas. We likely go out mewling and pewling..
(Bach’s cantata #140 “Sleepers Awake” kinda summarized--well beyond Corp religion--our plight) yet no one has learned how to produce that Conscious Shock™
aka epiphany, within masses of homo-saps gathered around nightly movin' pictures on their (new-cave) walls.

curl grad V=0?
New there is distinct differences.I saw a talking head Dem stridently proclaim
that unfettered global free trade without tariffs is an absolute must have. Yup times have changed all right,
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
     Checkpoint Sam. - (mmoffitt) - (17)
         Umm ... - (drook) - (5)
             Citing the law. How quaint. -NT - (mmoffitt)
             Send the Coast Guard up the Rio Grande! - (scoenye) - (2)
                 Re: Send the Coast Guard up the Rio Grande! - (dmcarls) - (1)
                     “the Constitution is suspended at the borders” - (rcareaga)
             using pussy communists to defend the border is not domestic law enforcement -NT - (boxley)
         Exact marching song ..from that earlier prototype-Era: - (Ashton)
         surely it would have been worse… - (rcareaga) - (9)
             November will be the first real indicator of any hoped for improvement. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                 I’ll give you this: - (rcareaga) - (7)
                     In the final analysis, there is a fundmental flaw in all democracies. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                         Hillary got substantially more votes. Just sayin'... -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                             Basically, its the 10% at the midpoint that matter. -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                             Did she get a star for that? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                 well she used to get 5 stars, now she is down label -NT - (boxley)
                         There are too many oxymoronic attributes at work, though - (Ashton)
                     there is distinct differences.I saw a talking head Dem stridently proclaim - (boxley)

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