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Post #423,051 by malraux 3/26/18 2:05:42 PM 3/26/18 2:05:42 PM Reply	On the philosophy of architecture Why You Hate Contemporary Architecture Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #423,052 by mmoffitt 3/26/18 2:28:37 PM 3/26/18 2:28:37 PM Reply	Nice. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #423,055 by drook 3/26/18 2:54:30 PM 3/26/18 10:13:28 PM Reply	Long-form Kunstler Will have to finish this at home. [edit] Now that I've finished it, I was right that Kunstler would approve: It should be obvious to anyone that skyscrapers should be abolished. After all, they embody nearly every bad tendency in contemporary architecture: they are not part of nature, they are monolithic, they are boring, they have no intricacy, and they have no democracy. Besides, there is plenty of space left on earth to spread out horizontally; the only reasons to spread vertically are phallic and Freudian. Architect Leon Krier has suggested that while there should be no height limit on buildings, no building should ever be more than four stories (so, spires as tall as you like, and belfries). This seems a completely sensible idea. -- Drew Edited by drook March 26, 2018, 10:13:28 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #423,056 by Ashton 3/26/18 3:38:45 PM 3/26/18 3:38:45 PM Reply	Thanks.. a virtual manifesto: Capitalism eats culture, and it makes ugly places. Money has no taste. ..and in conclusion, In My State :-/ Caltrans District 7 Headquarters. Photo credit: Morphosis Architects. ”Oh my fucking god, just look at it. Look at it! Does this make you happy? Does it nourish your spirit? What’s with all the little random protrusions? Aaaaagghh.” Godzilla meets The Top 0.1% of $$homo-saps. And punts.
Post #423,057 by mmoffitt 3/26/18 3:49:22 PM 3/26/18 3:49:22 PM Reply	We are Borg. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #423,059 by Ashton 3/26/18 4:03:18 PM 3/26/18 4:03:18 PM Reply	!! :-/ The algorithmic symmetry of a Mindless futchah?
Post #423,065 by boxley 3/26/18 6:07:09 PM 3/26/18 6:07:09 PM Reply	you get buildings like that with public money architects want to build something different but we have been building things from the mudhut days, not a lot of new out there. So to fix this, put the plans out to bid then let the buying public vote on the monstrosity of their choice. "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,066 by malraux 3/26/18 6:12:25 PM 3/26/18 6:12:25 PM Reply	Not always. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_and_Maria_Stata_Center Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #423,072 by boxley 3/26/18 8:44:41 PM 3/26/18 8:44:41 PM Reply	fugly indeed "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,075 by Ashton 3/26/18 9:26:21 PM 3/26/18 9:26:21 PM Reply	I can give that melange a Pass.. Somehow it seems almost apt ... for the actual daily activities of its inmates; it could even stimulate the arabesques of Imagination necessary for "The New" to sorta begin to happen. Maybe. (But that IS a quite specialized population.) Foisting this cognitive dissonance on all comers .. abject victims having to commute there daily and/or those forced to look at it (as that French square-penis sticking up for what can only be described as No Reason At All) ..that stuff remains the least interesting aspect of the jejune, as we Conservatives (not those Reactionary imposters) like to say.
Post #423,076 by boxley 3/26/18 9:30:23 PM 3/26/18 9:30:23 PM Reply	roof lines, drainage, whoops? wonder what the maintenance costs are "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,087 by a6l6e6x 3/27/18 7:44:15 AM 3/27/18 7:44:15 AM Reply	Funny you should bring it up. As I read the article, I kept expecting Maria Stata to show up as an example. But, it never did. As I have not seen it, perhaps it's different in real life. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #423,069 by static 3/26/18 8:19:05 PM 3/26/18 8:19:05 PM Reply	What an odd article. He seems to really have it in for Frank Gehry. I think DA was wrong about airports. Airport terminals can be beautiful, but are often not for a variety of reasons. Incheon (Seoul) is marvellous, for instance, but Kingsford-Smith (Sydney) really needs tearing down and starting again. I have a friend who loves Brutalism. She frequently burbles quite happily about it on Twitter. Wade.
Post #423,080 by Andrew Grygus 3/26/18 10:51:38 PM 3/26/18 10:51:38 PM Reply	Well, here in Los Angeles . . . . . Frank Gehry's Disney Hall has been such a stunning success it is being imitated elsewhere. Some neighbors have complained about reflections of the sun off of it though.
Post #423,081 by static 3/27/18 2:07:13 AM 3/27/18 2:07:13 AM Reply	I can understand that. Kind of glad that Jørn Utzon clashed with those funding the building of the Sydney Opera House. It meant no-one tried to copy it. :-) Wade.
Post #423,088 by scoenye 3/27/18 7:55:43 AM 3/27/18 7:55:43 AM Reply	Atlantikwall architektur With the distinction that the bunkers were generally better integrated with their environment. Question of not standing out too much to passing bombers...
Post #423,090 by pwhysall 3/27/18 9:54:53 AM 3/27/18 9:54:53 AM Reply	I too enjoy brutalist architecture I wouldn't want everything to look like The Barbican Estate in London, but I'd be properly miffed if nothing looked like it.
Post #423,092 by drook 3/27/18 10:53:35 AM 3/27/18 10:53:35 AM Reply	I agree some of it looks cool, when it fits the environment But this is shit no matter where they put it. -- Drew
Post #423,096 by pwhysall 3/27/18 1:04:55 PM 3/27/18 1:04:55 PM Reply	Oh get out, that's awesome.
Post #423,100 by boxley 3/27/18 3:36:40 PM 3/27/18 3:36:40 PM Reply	Agreed minimalist lines where function follows form "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,105 by drook 3/27/18 5:34:25 PM 3/27/18 5:34:25 PM Reply	Cool to look at, not to live in -- Drew
Post #423,112 by pwhysall 3/28/18 12:51:43 AM 3/28/18 12:51:43 AM Reply	Ya think? www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-69321071.html
Post #423,113 by Ashton 3/28/18 1:04:26 AM 3/28/18 1:04:26 AM Reply	Well, the added greenery does tend to hide the transistorized mindset but it can't make it go away. That one of these plots exceeds $1M.. posh millennial techno folk? (Everything is a Rorschach, innit?)
Post #423,115 by drook 3/28/18 9:22:21 AM 3/28/18 9:22:21 AM Reply	The greenery helps a ton Changes the feel from "Soviet prison block" to "hanging gardens of Babylon". I do appreciate the brutalist aesthetic, but generally wouldn't want to live in it. For instance: -- Drew
Post #423,116 by malraux 3/28/18 11:27:59 AM 3/28/18 11:27:59 AM Reply	I can feel the tetanus and lead poisoning through the screen. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #423,078 by drook 3/26/18 10:20:37 PM 3/26/18 10:20:37 PM Reply	Oh crap, more homework The authors have several more articles that look to be worth the time. -- Drew

On the philosophy of architecture - (malraux) - (25) - March 26, 2018, 02:05:42 PM EDT

Nice. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 26, 2018, 02:28:37 PM EDT

Long-form Kunstler - (drook) - March 26, 2018, 10:13:28 PM EDT

Thanks.. a virtual manifesto: Capitalism eats culture, and it makes ugly places. Money has no taste. - (Ashton) - (2) - March 26, 2018, 03:38:45 PM EDT

We are Borg. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 26, 2018, 03:49:22 PM EDT

!! :-/ The algorithmic symmetry of a Mindless futchah? -NT - (Ashton) - March 26, 2018, 04:03:18 PM EDT

you get buildings like that with public money - (boxley) - (5) - March 26, 2018, 06:07:09 PM EDT

Not always. - (malraux) - (4) - March 26, 2018, 06:12:25 PM EDT

fugly indeed -NT - (boxley) - March 26, 2018, 08:44:41 PM EDT

I can give that melange a Pass.. - (Ashton) - (1) - March 26, 2018, 09:26:21 PM EDT

roof lines, drainage, whoops? wonder what the maintenance costs are -NT - (boxley) - March 26, 2018, 09:30:23 PM EDT

Funny you should bring it up. - (a6l6e6x) - March 27, 2018, 07:44:15 AM EDT

What an odd article. - (static) - (12) - March 26, 2018, 08:19:05 PM EDT

Well, here in Los Angeles . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - March 26, 2018, 10:51:38 PM EDT

I can understand that. - (static) - March 27, 2018, 02:07:13 AM EDT

Atlantikwall architektur - (scoenye) - March 27, 2018, 07:55:43 AM EDT

I too enjoy brutalist architecture - (pwhysall) - (8) - March 27, 2018, 09:54:53 AM EDT

I agree some of it looks cool, when it fits the environment - (drook) - (7) - March 27, 2018, 10:53:35 AM EDT

Oh get out, that's awesome. -NT - (pwhysall) - (6) - March 27, 2018, 01:04:55 PM EDT

Agreed minimalist lines where function follows form -NT - (boxley) - March 27, 2018, 03:36:40 PM EDT

Cool to look at, not to live in -NT - (drook) - (4) - March 27, 2018, 05:34:25 PM EDT

Ya think? - (pwhysall) - (3) - March 28, 2018, 12:51:43 AM EDT

Well, the added greenery does tend to hide the transistorized mindset - (Ashton) - (2) - March 28, 2018, 01:04:26 AM EDT

The greenery helps a ton - (drook) - (1) - March 28, 2018, 09:22:21 AM EDT

I can feel the tetanus and lead poisoning through the screen. -NT - (malraux) - March 28, 2018, 11:27:59 AM EDT

Oh crap, more homework - (drook) - March 26, 2018, 10:20:37 PM EDT

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