Confused. What does that video show?

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3/24/18 2:48:24 AM

3/24/18 2:48:24 AM

Confused. What does that video show?

Here's the actual accident:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2018/03/19/uber-self-driving-autonomous-crash-arizona-pedestrian-dead-cnnmoney-orig.cnnmoney

I would have been able to avoid that EASILY at 48 mph which was the reported speed (at least in 1 article I read.) Hell, I've avoided deer in fog going about 65 at 1/2 the visibility.

And they have lider, ie: can see in the dark. This one is at LEAST manslaughter.

Post #423,027

3/24/18 8:26:48 AM

3/24/18 9:11:17 AM

Uber's makes it look unavoidable

The second video shows you have a clear field of view at the accident spot with plenty of range to spot a pedestrian approaching from the left.

Reporting about the speed limit has been confusing. Tempe PD originally said the car was doing 38 in a 35 mph zone. Streetview shows a 35 sign just before the river, but then a 45 sign just before the overpass.

Maybe Uber's AI is even more human: don't slow me down when I'm accelerating, fool!

(Although upping the speed limit just before you get to a complicated intersection should probably be added to the collection of roadway design gaffes.)

Edited by scoenye March 24, 2018, 09:11:17 AM EDT

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That didn't take long. - (mmoffitt) - (47) - March 19, 2018, 04:05:49 PM EDT

I'll wait for the video -NT - (drook) - (42) - March 19, 2018, 04:51:15 PM EDT

Um, you doubt the veracity of the report? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (30) - March 21, 2018, 08:14:09 AM EDT

No - (drook) - (29) - March 21, 2018, 09:14:59 AM EDT

Local ABC affiliate video - (Another Scott) - (28) - March 21, 2018, 10:27:11 AM EDT

Maybe - (drook) - March 21, 2018, 11:30:31 AM EDT

But they *WILL* be pushed out because Shareholders and Banksters need more MONEY. - (mmoffitt) - (24) - March 21, 2018, 12:04:56 PM EDT

Great reason to question the motives, but sometimes the "right thing" also make someone rich -NT - (drook) - March 21, 2018, 02:54:11 PM EDT

It won't be long before it's the only kind of car I'll be allowed to use! - (a6l6e6x) - (22) - March 21, 2018, 03:37:54 PM EDT

Feh. Mass transit is and always was the answer. - (mmoffitt) - (21) - March 21, 2018, 03:57:50 PM EDT

Mass Transit? - (Andrew Grygus) - (20) - March 21, 2018, 05:56:19 PM EDT

How so? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (19) - March 22, 2018, 08:15:19 AM EDT

Re: How so? - (Andrew Grygus) - (18) - March 22, 2018, 12:11:26 PM EDT

Okay, it doesn't work for ambulances either. But those are outliers. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - March 22, 2018, 02:55:22 PM EDT

We also have to look at US geography - (Ashton) - (7) - March 22, 2018, 04:16:12 PM EDT

There's no reason not to do it, other than infatuation with the car because reasons - (pwhysall) - (6) - March 26, 2018, 03:22:50 AM EDT

Disagree - (crazy) - (5) - March 26, 2018, 05:11:56 AM EDT

Re: Disagree - (pwhysall) - March 27, 2018, 06:31:22 AM EDT

Also - (pwhysall) - (3) - March 27, 2018, 06:45:10 AM EDT

45-60 for me. - (malraux) - (1) - March 27, 2018, 05:18:35 PM EDT

Yeah, I enjoyed my nyc commute. - (crazy) - March 27, 2018, 07:22:20 PM EDT

54 miles 40-45 minutes 3.5 hours 1 way public transpo the a 2.5 mile hike. no thanks -NT - (boxley) - March 27, 2018, 06:54:56 PM EDT

Perhaps they need a permanent techie employee! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (8) - March 22, 2018, 04:54:05 PM EDT

Only one of my clients is big enough for that. - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - March 22, 2018, 09:16:54 PM EDT

Suit instead of suite? Was that intentional? If so, I like it. :0) - (mmoffitt) - March 23, 2018, 08:00:07 AM EDT

A fun thing about Microsoft Exchange Server. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - March 23, 2018, 12:33:15 PM EDT

Another fun thing. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 23, 2018, 01:31:03 PM EDT

Yeah, I ran into the open relay problem myself. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - March 23, 2018, 01:39:39 PM EDT

Systems guys at the law firm I worked at *turned off* the firewall - (drook) - March 23, 2018, 01:54:41 PM EDT

The flaw in "safety by obscurity" - (Andrew Grygus) - March 23, 2018, 01:51:11 PM EDT

Permanent? - (crazy) - March 24, 2018, 02:53:03 AM EDT

Got it backwards - (crazy) - (1) - March 23, 2018, 07:03:52 PM EDT

Moi likes your reading-list.. -NT - (Ashton) - March 24, 2018, 05:24:06 AM EDT

And here's the video - (drook) - (10) - March 21, 2018, 09:10:55 PM EDT

Drum has some good questions... - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 21, 2018, 11:29:35 PM EDT

Those, plus... - (scoenye) - (2) - March 22, 2018, 04:07:13 PM EDT

Agreed, but ... - (drook) - (1) - March 22, 2018, 04:36:35 PM EDT

Indeed - (scoenye) - March 22, 2018, 10:58:15 PM EDT

Lidar vendor doesn't understand it either - (scoenye) - March 24, 2018, 08:33:28 AM EDT

New video ... they're evil, and screwed - (drook) - (4) - March 22, 2018, 10:47:07 PM EDT

Not shocked at all... -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 22, 2018, 11:00:47 PM EDT

Me neither. Lower quality camera === more profits for shareholders. Capitalism is evil. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 23, 2018, 07:56:38 AM EDT

Confused. What does that video show? - (crazy) - (1) - March 24, 2018, 02:48:24 AM EDT

Uber's makes it look unavoidable - (scoenye) - March 24, 2018, 09:11:17 AM EDT

It will be a brief pause before tests resume. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - March 19, 2018, 11:13:54 PM EDT

Photos of the scene - (drook) - (2) - March 21, 2018, 04:34:26 PM EDT

A+ for actually sleuthing ..almost showing that, - (Ashton) - March 21, 2018, 06:24:05 PM EDT

Multiple faults. - (static) - March 21, 2018, 11:48:46 PM EDT

Misdirection!
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