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New ..er. that's "Tonnne" IIRC ;^>
But yeah.. it's been evident to moi, ever since my Grand Tour in my twenties that the Brits--despite also spawning such Lizards as Murdoch et al--have shown selves to be a Tribe well worth Fighting-for (with or without Churchillian lovely hyperbole) ... "in the streets, on the landing grounds ... ..."

Whereas , even before the recent proofs of our Moral Cowardice/compoundrd by rampant Ignorance underscored the status of our Tribe ... well can only speak for Self: I've been an Ex-Pat for longer than I can recall.. We have indubitably Earned our obloquy.. cf. Tailgunner Joe McCarthy and them Commyunists-under-every *{{quaking}} bedstead.. That shit works Every Time in the dis-US.

* Somehow (forget details) the Feds prevented Linus Pauling from making a trip to UK; he had (in sick-bed! via cut pieces of paper) unravelled the DNA helix; had he gone, Crick et al (who never credited the Real discoverer: an X-ray Pro woman who Had the Images which they merely interpreted: Pauling would have had/had Earned: all them Kudoes. We suck in myriad ways.
New Re: "despite also spawning such Lizards as Murdoch"
Not to blame.

For the record, Wiki:
Keith Rupert Murdoch, AC KCSG (born 11 March 1931) is an Australian-born American media mogul.


Now, I'll make Wade mad! :)
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Yeah, knew the sucker was from Oz, but same Tribal-offshoot :-)
New We're basically waiting for him to fall off his perch.
He renounced Australian citizenship some decades ago, although he is still widely accused of having our politicians in his pocket.

Wade.
     Reason 3,141,592 the Brits are better people than Americans. - (mmoffitt) - (18)
         Contract not renewed. - (Andrew Grygus) - (17)
             I read that as well. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                 It says Fox News shows US news ... why would they watch that in England? -NT - (drook) - (3)
                     Er.. maybe for reasons not unlike why we/many watch the Beeb's views-of-itall? -NT - (Ashton)
                     People in the UK are interested in what goes on in the US... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         Philip K. Dick in a short story, called them "News Clowns". Long ago that was. - (Ashton)
                 ..er. that's "Tonnne" IIRC ;^> - (Ashton) - (3)
                     Re: "despite also spawning such Lizards as Murdoch" - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                         Yeah, knew the sucker was from Oz, but same Tribal-offshoot :-) -NT - (Ashton)
                         We're basically waiting for him to fall off his perch. - (static)
                 They have their own versions. - (malraux) - (4)
                     Understood. But I'd swap our Republicans for their Tories anytime, anyday. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                         bloody socialist :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                             :0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     Half of the voters, not half of the people - (pwhysall)
             Good article on it - (crazy) - (2)
                 Talk aboutcher ..Ass-Food-fer-Thought within these lunatics: Rorschach test via TLAs? -NT - (Ashton)
                 That is funny -NT - (boxley)

A base libel on toxic waste dumps everywhere.
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