In the meantime, we just passed the 50th anniversary of My Lai.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/16/the-tip-of-the-iceberg-my-lai-fifty-years-on/

"...At the While House, only a week after the verdict, National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger reassured Nixon that “the public furor… [had] quieted down… Let the judicial process… take its normal course,” counselled Kissinger. Liberal efforts to stir “a feeling of revulsion against the deed,” and turn the trial into a referendum against the war, had failed. “In fact the deed itself didn’t bother anybody,” Kissinger added. “No,” Nixon agreed, picking up eagerly on his advisor’s cynical drift. “The public said, ‘Sure he was guilty but, by God, why not?’ ” Both laughed.

The “deed” these two twisted political misanthropes found so amusing is memorialized at a shrine today in the My Lai township listing the names of the massacre’s 504 victims, more than half of whom were under the age of twenty, to include “forty-nine teenagers, 160 aged four to twelve, and fifty who were three years old or younger.”

Fifty three year olds!

Meanwhile, back to the present : a book/confession written by one of the Iraq torturers:

https://www.amazon.com/Consequence-Memoir-Eric-Fair/dp/1627795138/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1521397948&sr=1-2&keywords=consequence


And finally, the TV series '24' used torture to produce results:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_(TV_series)

"...The issue of torture on the series was discussed by President Bill Clinton who stated that he does not feel there is a place in U.S. policy for torture, but "If you're the Jack Bauer person, you'll do whatever you do and you should be prepared to take the consequences." Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, during a discussion about terrorism, torture and the law, took offense at a Canadian judge's remark that Canada, "thankfully", did not consider what Jack Bauer would do when setting policy. He reportedly responded with a defense of Bauer, arguing that law enforcement officials deserve latitude in times of great crisis, and that no jury would convict Bauer in those types of situations."


And so it goes.