Even I recognize legalization will win.

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Post #420,888 by mmoffitt 10/18/17 11:53:36 AM 10/18/17 11:53:36 AM Reply	Even I recognize legalization will win. The question is do we do it intelligently or do we allow the user base to influence their government to do it because they all want to get high, regardless of its impact upon developing minds? I think, as a rule, American brains are mush already without any help. Witness Trump (aside: interesting conjecture that. Do we have the Dubyas, Obamas and Trumps because a sufficient number of us have dorked their neural nets with the non-therapeutic use of psycho-active substances?). bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #420,889 by crazy 10/18/17 12:12:57 PM 10/18/17 12:12:57 PM Reply	You won't get what you want No matter what process, whether legislative, direct vote, or bureaucratic. The deck is stacked against scientific, has been for many years, and your preferred method would take a couple of generations, which WILL NOT HAPPEN. The political process will not allow it. So either the draconian laws are enforced or they get peeled away. You don't like your choices so you prefer the status quo. You are playing a delaying game.
Post #420,890 by mmoffitt 10/18/17 12:56:25 PM 10/18/17 12:56:25 PM Reply	I never suggested I would. Stupid seems to be the guiding principle in this country. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #420,891 by crazy 10/18/17 2:42:11 PM 10/18/17 2:42:11 PM Reply	Oh, I agree with you https://www.aclu.org/gallery/marijuana-arrests-numbers
Post #420,919 by CRConrad 10/19/17 6:48:46 AM 10/19/17 6:48:46 AM Reply	Interesting how you group those three all together. How about 1 & 3 because, 2 in spite of?
Post #420,926 by mmoffitt 10/19/17 8:26:39 AM 10/19/17 8:26:39 AM Reply	The Assassination President was a good thing? Oh, sorry, you must mean his hallmark legislation. Straddling us with a Republican health care plan that codified profit into the delivery of health care. That was a good thing? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.

One for MM. - (Another Scott) - (35) - Oct. 17, 2017, 07:19:01 AM EDT

Thanks. - (mmoffitt) - (34) - Oct. 17, 2017, 08:21:29 AM EDT

Then we don't know enough to ban it -NT - (drook) - (25) - Oct. 17, 2017, 08:31:40 AM EDT

Read much? Preliminary evidence (and Scott's posted anecdotal evidence) suggests we do. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (24) - Oct. 17, 2017, 09:59:34 AM EDT

We have more evidence against trans fat - (drook) - (4) - Oct. 17, 2017, 10:06:44 AM EDT

He doesn't blame crisco for his childhood friend deaths - (crazy) - Oct. 17, 2017, 11:45:47 AM EDT

I'm not a fan of "two wrongs make a right" thinking. YMMV. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 17, 2017, 11:49:50 AM EDT

But 3 rights make a left -NT - (crazy) - Oct. 17, 2017, 01:39:55 PM EDT

Outrage agains't Crisco . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 17, 2017, 12:36:12 PM EDT

Even with her (IIRC) bad experiences with it, she thinks it should be legal. -NT - (Another Scott) - (18) - Oct. 17, 2017, 11:11:23 AM EDT

Maybe her neural network has been adversely affected. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (17) - Oct. 17, 2017, 11:44:37 AM EDT

Or recognises her very small set of one - (crazy) - (16) - Oct. 17, 2017, 11:48:06 AM EDT

And we know this empirically how? - (mmoffitt) - (15) - Oct. 17, 2017, 11:51:55 AM EDT

well you do have a rather largish population of the buzzed to study in several states -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 17, 2017, 05:49:32 PM EDT

At least the ones left who didn't freak out and jump out of a hotel window, anyway. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Oct. 18, 2017, 08:40:48 AM EDT

How many are those? - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2017, 09:01:00 AM EDT

Fuck lives. I'm suggesting we make decisions based upon scientific evidence. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 18, 2017, 10:06:21 AM EDT

You aren't calling for further study, you're calling for a ban - (drook) - (10) - Oct. 18, 2017, 09:54:20 AM EDT

No I'm not. Smoke another one. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (9) - Oct. 18, 2017, 10:07:05 AM EDT

Catch 22 - (drook) - (8) - Oct. 18, 2017, 10:12:27 AM EDT

It's pretty simple, really. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Oct. 18, 2017, 10:26:14 AM EDT

Simple for you maybe - (crazy) - (6) - Oct. 18, 2017, 11:29:23 AM EDT

Even I recognize legalization will win. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Oct. 18, 2017, 11:53:36 AM EDT

You won't get what you want - (crazy) - (2) - Oct. 18, 2017, 12:12:57 PM EDT

I never suggested I would. Stupid seems to be the guiding principle in this country. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2017, 12:56:25 PM EDT

Oh, I agree with you - (crazy) - Oct. 18, 2017, 02:42:11 PM EDT

Interesting how you group those three all together. How about 1 & 3 because, 2 in spite of? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 19, 2017, 06:48:46 AM EDT

The Assassination President was a good thing? - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 19, 2017, 08:26:39 AM EDT

Many things are addictive to some people. - (malraux) - (4) - Oct. 18, 2017, 08:36:50 PM EDT

True. But, Real Ale is worth it. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Oct. 19, 2017, 08:27:34 AM EDT

While you pretend the smiley enjoy these stats - (crazy) - (2) - Oct. 19, 2017, 12:38:32 PM EDT

Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 19, 2017, 01:51:27 PM EDT

I'll grant you 100 deaths per year - (crazy) - Oct. 19, 2017, 03:46:45 PM EDT

I see your one anecdotal meaningless story and raise you real stats of lost lives avoided - (crazy) - (2) - Oct. 19, 2017, 02:31:17 AM EDT

The Daily Fail? Really? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 19, 2017, 08:24:02 AM EDT

Fine. How about PBS? - (crazy) - Oct. 19, 2017, 12:31:16 PM EDT

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