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Post #420,346 by drook 9/15/17 1:53:02 PM 9/15/17 1:53:02 PM Reply	Just to make sure I understand ... You don't run, and you don't listen to music (or anything else, apparently) from your phone. So people who do run, or take the train, or use headphones while eating lunch, or the thousand other use cases where people use headphones with their phones, should just suck it up and use the thing that's convenient for you? ;-) -- Drew
Post #420,348 by malraux 9/15/17 3:18:11 PM 9/15/17 3:18:11 PM Reply	No. 100% this is my own experience. I'm just stating that I don't care. YMMV. My comments sprang mainly from a conversation I had on Google+ where a rabid TRSSer was challenging people to name ONE thing that was made better with a jack, so I responded essentially that it was a zero net change for me as far as I was concerned, but if it gave the manufacturers more room to work with for stuff like AR or made it easier to waterproof then I counted that as a positive. I listen to music from my phone all the time using Bluetooth or the Lightning cable. That said, I don't see the problem with the dongle per se if you do want to use headphones. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #420,350 by drook 9/15/17 3:29:59 PM 9/15/17 3:29:59 PM Reply	Recommendation != opinion Besides, just use the damn dongle. -- Drew
Post #420,351 by malraux 9/15/17 3:31:43 PM 9/15/17 3:31:43 PM Reply	In my opinion, the dongle should suffice. Sufficient? Sheesh. :-) Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.

New Pixel phones on October 4. - (Another Scott) - (47) - Sept. 14, 2017, 08:51:58 AM EDT

I've seen some amusing butthurt from Fandroids about the TRRS jack - (malraux) - (46) - Sept. 14, 2017, 10:30:27 AM EDT

I have a different theory - (pwhysall) - (45) - Sept. 15, 2017, 11:06:07 AM EDT

The Essential apparently has a solution to this problem. - (Another Scott) - (31) - Sept. 15, 2017, 11:33:31 AM EDT

This "thinness über alles!" meme that's infected every IT hardware designer's brain is such utter BS - (CRConrad) - (14) - Sept. 19, 2017, 03:48:38 AM EDT

Yeahbut... - (Another Scott) - (5) - Sept. 18, 2017, 08:08:46 AM EDT

But, a sharp-edged 1.83kg laptop vs a 2.02 kg rounder one is a wash... Or a win for the heavier one. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Sept. 19, 2017, 04:00:19 AM EDT

Heh. - (pwhysall) - Sept. 19, 2017, 11:01:30 AM EDT

Re: Yeahbut... - (pwhysall) - (2) - Sept. 19, 2017, 10:56:48 AM EDT

Boy, you don't understand Mac users - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 19, 2017, 11:07:50 AM EDT

Such cynicism in one so... - (pwhysall) - Sept. 19, 2017, 11:08:21 AM EDT

I beat you to that one (IOW Yes, that exactly) - (drook) - (7) - Sept. 18, 2017, 08:49:52 AM EDT

Yeah, but I *thought* of it long before that. -NT - (CRConrad) - (6) - Sept. 19, 2017, 03:50:16 AM EDT

Did you think of it before smartphones? - (drook) - (5) - Sept. 19, 2017, 09:46:05 AM EDT

Razr? - (malraux) - (3) - Sept. 19, 2017, 10:29:48 AM EDT

J loved her StarTac flip phone. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 19, 2017, 10:41:24 AM EDT

Yup, Razr - (drook) - Sept. 19, 2017, 11:10:38 AM EDT

I had a keychain phone - (crazy) - Sept. 19, 2017, 04:24:55 PM EDT

Motorola RAZR, 2003. - (pwhysall) - Sept. 19, 2017, 10:58:06 AM EDT

Re: The Essential apparently has a solution to this problem. - (pwhysall) - Sept. 19, 2017, 11:06:45 AM EDT

Geez, I just noticed this - (drook) - (14) - Sept. 19, 2017, 11:12:47 AM EDT

Heh. - (Another Scott) - (13) - Sept. 19, 2017, 11:45:33 AM EDT

Too true! - (drook) - (12) - Sept. 19, 2017, 01:11:43 PM EDT

Evolution didn't "design" the headphone jack... - (Another Scott) - (11) - Sept. 19, 2017, 01:29:59 PM EDT

Apple patent blocked Magsafe-like connectors for years - (drook) - Sept. 19, 2017, 03:01:31 PM EDT

*Good* reasons? Do tell. -NT - (pwhysall) - (8) - Sept. 19, 2017, 03:53:24 PM EDT

Heh. You know the reasons. - (Another Scott) - (7) - Sept. 19, 2017, 04:28:28 PM EDT

No, I don't. - (pwhysall) - (6) - Sept. 20, 2017, 02:50:05 AM EDT

Licensing aside, something like Magsafe - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2017, 07:45:40 AM EDT

Yeah, but that's not a thing, is it? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2017, 08:53:13 AM EDT

You said "better", not "available" - (drook) - Sept. 20, 2017, 11:22:10 AM EDT

We won't be using 3.5 mm jacks in 50 years. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 20, 2017, 11:20:21 AM EDT

Micro-USB is a bad comparison - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 20, 2017, 11:34:18 AM EDT

Everything in that post is a bad comparison - (pwhysall) - Sept. 20, 2017, 01:03:04 PM EDT

Will second the snark re phrase, "good reasons" ;^> - (Ashton) - Sept. 20, 2017, 05:56:02 AM EDT

Waterproofing would have made the jack even bigger. - (malraux) - (12) - Sept. 15, 2017, 12:15:15 PM EDT

You must not run - (drook) - (11) - Sept. 15, 2017, 12:54:16 PM EDT

Nope. - (malraux) - (7) - Sept. 15, 2017, 01:09:31 PM EDT

Just to make sure I understand ... - (drook) - (3) - Sept. 15, 2017, 01:53:02 PM EDT

No. - (malraux) - (2) - Sept. 15, 2017, 03:18:11 PM EDT

Recommendation != opinion - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 15, 2017, 03:29:59 PM EDT

In my opinion, the dongle should suffice. - (malraux) - Sept. 15, 2017, 03:31:43 PM EDT

Reviews indicate it's a piece of crap. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 15, 2017, 02:39:48 PM EDT

That's another matter for sure. - (malraux) - Sept. 15, 2017, 03:19:43 PM EDT

(Un-believably?) that's an Apple Inc. blog and.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 16, 2017, 05:48:33 PM EDT

Here ya go. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 16, 2017, 08:30:10 AM EDT

That's called the "Somali Hands-free" in Finland, if you do it with a phone in stead. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Sept. 18, 2017, 08:14:25 AM EDT

Indeed! Breathing is good. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 18, 2017, 08:31:25 AM EDT

You are so wrong philosophers weep at the sound of your voice.
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