Post #419,696
8/15/17 8:54:10 PM
8/15/17 8:54:10 PM
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watched some of his remarks while catching up on email
. There was a group on this side — you can call them the left, you just called them the left — that came violently attacking the other group. did that happen? What little video I saw was that some of both sides came dressed up like the Renaissance fair participants. I wondered if there would have been any violence at all if the shitkickers from both the right and the left had stayed up north where they came from. Why do all the damn yankees want to come to the south to do battle? Kill each other back in ohio for dogs sake. If they had a pretty young lady FROM the deep south might still be alive. Saw those white pieces of garbage beating a young black man with sticks. Why didnt one of those dear yankee photographers who were there to support "their" side jump in and stop them? Go fucking home and shit disturb there. Let the south sort out their own issues.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,705
8/15/17 11:18:23 PM
8/15/17 11:18:23 PM
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There’s considerable historical evidence by now
…some of it in living memory, about how the South behaves when it’s left alone to “sort out their own issues.” Or did you sleep through the past several decades?
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Post #419,721
8/16/17 9:54:18 AM
8/16/17 9:54:18 AM
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Re: There’s considerable historical evidence by now
I suppose the black mayor of the town in pic you presented wanted that to happen? That age is gone. All the Yankee white asshole nazis from Ohio will not bring it back.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,722
8/16/17 10:11:05 AM
8/16/17 10:11:05 AM
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Yes, there is racism everywhere.
But it's Virginia laws that prevent these monuments from being removed. Protests in Virginia are entirely appropriate.
Whataboutery is really beneath you, here.
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #419,757
8/16/17 7:03:35 PM
8/16/17 7:03:35 PM
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sorry no whataboutery at all
antifa stupid fuckers but their heart is in the right place neofuckwitkkknazi scum that need to stay in their fucking hovels to be gobsmacked if they stick their nose out. But it's Virginia laws that prevent these monuments from being removed. Protests in Virginia are entirely appropriate. violence being started ensued and encouraged by asshats from north of the mason dixon line? Not fucking hardly
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,764
8/16/17 8:42:13 PM
8/16/17 8:42:13 PM
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Have you seen (reputable) reports of how many participants were from outside VA?
Richard Spencer lives in NoVA (or at least has an apartment in the area). Is it somehow better that he's not from Ohio or California? Does it really matter if one side or the other had more out of state protesters than the other? Americans shouldn't be able to travel to another city or state to protest? Were the Freedom Riders wrong to go to Alabama, Mississippi, and elsewhere, to do things that the local authorities (and others) didn't like? I'm having trouble following your argument here. I think we all agree that there are racists everywhere. People in the North have no monopoly on virtue. But I don't know of an example of some Northern state or local government arguing that Confederate memorials can never be removed. Gandhi was an 'outside agitator' also too.Cheers, Scott.
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Post #419,766
8/16/17 9:18:04 PM
8/16/17 9:18:05 PM
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well I am glad you are finally coming around, the north does have racist assholes
Does it really matter if one side or the other had more out of state protesters than the other? Americans shouldn't be able to travel to another city or state to protest?
Protest yes, kill and savagely beat other people no. I dont care what flag you are flying when you do that.
Did the freedom riders in mississippi bring clubs and shields to selma? I dont think so and it was the savagery from the other side that started the slow climb out of the horror.
Is being black living in Compton safer than being black living in Selma today? Lot less chance of being beaten, falsly accused arrested and shot in Selma in my opinion. Perhaps the Berkely Grandee may have a different one.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,768
8/16/17 9:26:51 PM
8/16/17 9:26:51 PM
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Eh?
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Post #419,800
8/17/17 5:00:06 PM
8/17/17 5:00:06 PM
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(Thanks, again for your 'actually-Organized!' Linkie-sets :-)
/Me keeps waiting for HAL-9000 clone to be marketed: ain't seen nary a one yet :-/
TMI + AI + (a pig-iggerant collection of illegible dis-U.S.Tribes) = (an equation we don't really want to Ponder, next. Eh?]
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Post #419,808
8/17/17 7:21:20 PM
8/17/17 7:21:20 PM
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no, this time you didnt try to claim the racist from ohio was really decended from kentukians
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,814
8/17/17 7:38:30 PM
8/17/17 7:38:30 PM
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Why would anyone claim that?
Considering he was born in Kentucky and lived there until earlier this year, why would anyone go for "descended from Kentuckians"?
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Post #419,771
8/16/17 10:32:57 PM
8/16/17 10:32:57 PM
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What's the bigger problem?
There are violent racist assholes in the South. There are also violent racist assholes in the North. You seem to think we don't all know that.
When some of the northerners make a pilgrimage to the South to stir shit up, and locals turn out in support, is the critical part of that story that it was outsiders leading the rally?
That's why we keep talking past each other. I don't give a fuck where people are from, I care what they do. That doesn't mean I don't notice it's southern states that hang white supremacist flags on their statehouses.
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Post #419,809
8/17/17 7:22:28 PM
8/17/17 7:22:28 PM
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Re: What's the bigger problem?
dont go elsewhere to maim people. Stay home and maim your locals. Is it really that hard?
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,815
8/17/17 7:39:49 PM
8/17/17 7:40:34 PM
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Well OK ... I thought it was obvious "don't maim people" should be the point
Edited by drook
Aug. 17, 2017, 07:40:34 PM EDT
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Post #419,816
8/17/17 9:02:45 PM
8/17/17 9:02:45 PM
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well if you have to maim someone do it at home where it will be more finely appreciated
by your neighbors cops and prosecutors who know you
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,817
8/18/17 12:13:23 AM
8/18/17 12:13:23 AM
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No. DON'T MAIM PEOPLE. Full stop.
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Post #419,836
8/18/17 9:13:18 PM
8/18/17 9:13:18 PM
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you live in Ohio, it has not stopped anyone there for a thousand years
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,779
8/17/17 3:52:01 AM
8/17/17 3:52:01 AM
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No, whataboutery isnt beneath him; it's his standard MO. Doesn't going-around-in-circles prove that?
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Post #419,747
8/16/17 3:41:44 PM
8/16/17 3:41:44 PM
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“Old times there are not forgotten”
That age is gone. Oh, yeah, I forgot all about the Day of Jubilee. Jeff Sessions is, like, totally on board with civil rights. The Civil War was totally not about slavery, and those monuments were all erected in the spirit of racial harmony and the brotherhood of men. Pull the other one, box. It’s got a fucking bell on it.
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Post #419,758
8/16/17 7:04:55 PM
8/16/17 7:04:55 PM
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sure, what state has the most hate groups? Oh it the wunnerful state of california
keep you hate folks in your state, dont let them travel here.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,773
8/17/17 2:49:48 AM
8/17/17 2:49:48 AM
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Re: sure, what state has the most hate groups? Oh it the wunnerful state of california
Might that be something to do with the fact that California has, with 39M people, the largest population of all the states?
In fact, I'd hazard a guess that California has the most of lots of things.
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Post #419,796
8/17/17 4:38:09 PM
8/17/17 4:38:09 PM
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[!!] ;^>
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Post #419,715
8/16/17 7:43:38 AM
8/16/17 7:43:38 AM
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Please post pics of the "Alt-Left's" Praetorian Guards with assault rifles in Charlottesville, eh?
If you can't find any, then stop echoing Trump's Whataboutery and Bothsideisms.
But, hey -- you already know you aren't going to find any pics of that, don't you? Because you already know nothing like that went on.
You're just echoing that dreck because you have absolutely no fucking shame at all, not to mention the least shred of an inkling on what "intellectual honesty" means.
How the fuck do you even live with yourself?
-- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
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Post #419,759
8/16/17 7:08:41 PM
8/16/17 7:08:41 PM
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dunno did the black panthers show up?
so you are all in on people from elsewhere in america coming to the south to kill locals to support your vision of america. You would have fit right in in 1860. Besides you would have made money standing in for a draftee who wanted no part of it.
All fun aside this was planned and executed to ensure violence took place with 2 separate groups one good and one evil(nazi fucks in case you needed that pointed out to you) from elsewhere to deliver charlottesville into a nightmare. Both sides need to take their shit back to their own doorstep.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,780
8/17/17 4:04:18 AM
8/17/17 4:04:18 AM
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Post pics of them in Charlottesville armed with assault rifles or STFU, you lying liar.
"Dunno", i.e more waddabouttery: "What if they were...?" Yeah, well, what if the moon were made out of green cheese?
And yes, I certainly hope that if I'd lived in America in 1860, I would have gone "to the south to kill locals to support [my] vision of america" -- that is, enlisted in the U.S. Army and gone and fought against the traitors who rebelled to preserve slavery. What, you wouldn't?!? Duh, I guess one shouldn't be surprised that you lack even that basic decency. Funny, though, that you seem to not even have realised that that was what you were saying.
The fact that you apparently don't even notice how totally disconnected your "arguments" are from anything resembling consistency and logic indicates that you're not just occasionally indulging in temporarily being an arsehole, but that you're fundamentally incapable of not being an arsehole.
Forrest Gump: "Stupid is as stupid does."
Corollary: If someone keeps "being an arsehole" all the time, then he is an arsehole.
Haven't seen you doing anything else since about forever.
-- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
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Post #419,810
8/17/17 7:26:11 PM
8/17/17 7:26:11 PM
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I am glad you support people coming to the south to kill other people in 2017, shows your mind set
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,819
8/18/17 6:08:18 AM
8/18/17 6:08:18 AM
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No pics, I note. The guys with ARs in the pics I saw were all on the Nazi side.
And no, since I don't know of any Black Panthers having travelled there from out-of-state to kill anyone -- know no more of such than you, who claim it but consistently refuse to back up your claim -- there is no basis to any claim that I "support" such. Are you claiming you're too stupid to realise that, or just too mendacious to admit it?
It has to be one or the other, and neither is particularly flattering for you. But I'm honestly curious as to which you think is less damning, so please tell us: Which one is it?
Also: Pics of Black Panthers with assault rifles in Charlottesville last weekend or STFU.
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But, who am I kidding... Will you do either? No, of course not. When asked a simple question, you refuse to actually respond, but still apparently just _have to_ reply with some reiteration of your previous blither -- no matter that it's already either been disproved, or counter-argued and is now waiting for some counter-counter from you. If there is no such, then just pretend you didn't hear.
1) Do you really want to claim there is any difference between your behaviour in these discussions and that of a monkey throwing its own feces at the walls?
2) Do you have any intellectual honesty at all? Are you physically capable of admitting -- or even realising? -- when you are wrong? Did neither of your parents teach you basic decency to the extent of ever admitting "I was wrong, sorry", and then _not_ immediately turn around and spout the same shit again?
If either of them did, it must have been too long ago: You've clearly forgotten the lesson.
-- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
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Post #419,837
8/18/17 9:18:40 PM
8/18/17 9:18:40 PM
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quit beating that straw man with your red herring
I have never claimed that the black panthers were there and armed. My father has been dead since I was 14 years old and me mum has been mad as a hatter her entire life but what has that got to do with the price of tea in china? Hey I have said I was sorry when I made a mistake once and someone said is was the most powerful apology he had ever seen (or most begrudging, I forget which)
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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Post #419,838
8/18/17 9:19:40 PM
8/18/17 9:19:40 PM
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:-)
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Post #419,790
8/17/17 10:23:57 AM
8/17/17 10:23:57 AM
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Toles helps boxley explain it for us
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Post #419,798
8/17/17 4:51:59 PM
8/17/17 4:51:59 PM
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One DOES so-despise so. Much. of. his 'very, very Limited vocabulary' but, personally I find
that: the ..very, very incessant repetition Grates about the Most..
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Post #419,791
8/17/17 10:52:39 AM
8/17/17 10:52:39 AM
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"Alt-Left" is not a thing
Let's not start using the phrase and accept the framing.
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Post #419,812
8/17/17 7:27:46 PM
8/17/17 7:27:46 PM
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Re: "Alt-Left" is not a thing correct it is antifa
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
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