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Post #419,652 by rcareaga 8/15/17 10:26:38 AM 8/15/17 10:26:38 AM Reply	Thanks; fixed And yeah, I thought much the same thing, which is why I object to these removals being undertaken by flash mobs. For the rest, if Germany today was anything like the former Confederacy, the country would be lousy with monuments to Himmler, Bormann, Goering, et cetera. It’s not. cordilly,
Post #419,653 by drook 8/15/17 11:01:20 AM 8/15/17 11:01:20 AM Reply	Hadn't thought of that Is there anyplace else on Earth where the losing side decorated the country with monuments? -- Drew
Post #419,654 by mmoffitt 8/15/17 11:55:36 AM 8/15/17 11:55:36 AM Reply	Is there any place on earth where the victors didn't destroy the symbols of the conquered? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #419,656 by drook 8/15/17 1:26:35 PM 8/15/17 1:26:35 PM Reply	Other than the entire southern U.S. you mean? No, actually it's more than that. All these statues were built after they lost. Is there anywhere else that's ever happened? -- Drew
Post #419,658 by mmoffitt 8/15/17 1:31:55 PM 8/15/17 1:31:55 PM Reply	You mentioned it below, but the Vietnam War Memorial is an obvious example. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.

Monumental frolic - (rcareaga) - (68) - Aug. 15, 2017, 07:46:53 PM EDT

Think you included the wrong linky - (drook) - (7) - Aug. 15, 2017, 10:13:13 AM EDT

Thanks; fixed - (rcareaga) - (4) - Aug. 15, 2017, 10:26:38 AM EDT

Hadn't thought of that - (drook) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2017, 11:01:20 AM EDT

Is there any place on earth where the victors didn't destroy the symbols of the conquered? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2017, 11:55:36 AM EDT

Other than the entire southern U.S. you mean? - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2017, 01:26:35 PM EDT

You mentioned it below, but the Vietnam War Memorial is an obvious example. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 15, 2017, 01:31:55 PM EDT

I think those ones in the middle east are a different basket. - (static) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2017, 10:53:02 PM EDT

Yeah, I've figured out my intuition - (drook) - Aug. 15, 2017, 11:13:33 PM EDT

My thoughts. - (mmoffitt) - (56) - Aug. 15, 2017, 12:05:58 PM EDT

Do they have monuments to those who died in wars they lost? - (drook) - (55) - Aug. 15, 2017, 01:29:41 PM EDT

I heard a report on NPR that the cops are looking for the perps, and intend to charge them. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (38) - Aug. 15, 2017, 01:33:25 PM EDT

They should handle it the way they did Bree Newsome. - (Another Scott) - (37) - Aug. 15, 2017, 03:17:44 PM EDT

"Toxic" is a bit strong. - (mmoffitt) - (36) - Aug. 15, 2017, 03:21:01 PM EDT

Malice? Or civil disobedience? - (drook) - (5) - Aug. 15, 2017, 03:27:08 PM EDT

Really? Amendment 13 much? - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:16:22 PM EDT

I was thinking more 1960s than 1790s - (drook) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:22:20 PM EDT

The relative effectiveness of changing a "wrong" law vs breaking the law. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:29:58 PM EDT

Did the law get changed before or after a war was fought? - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:30:13 PM EDT

So, changing the law works? Or it doesn't (as you previously stated)? I'm confused. And tired. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:33:15 PM EDT

Not really. - (Another Scott) - (29) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:16:44 PM EDT

Eh. - (mmoffitt) - (25) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:22:36 PM EDT

Three-for-three - (drook) - (21) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:26:54 PM EDT

Move to strike. Incoherent. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:27:48 PM EDT

OK, I'm done -NT - (drook) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:31:05 PM EDT

Only to you - (crazy) - Aug. 15, 2017, 09:58:34 PM EDT

"Incoherent"? What's more incoherent than trying strategy after strategy, only to... - (CRConrad) - (17) - Aug. 16, 2017, 06:39:07 AM EDT

You guys really need to drop the "privilege" meme. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Aug. 16, 2017, 08:25:06 AM EDT

Which part of White Supremacist Statue Hugger says anything about "privilege"?!? - (CRConrad) - (15) - Aug. 16, 2017, 08:53:07 AM EDT

Oh, now I'm a White Supremacist. - (mmoffitt) - (14) - Aug. 16, 2017, 10:19:08 AM EDT

"There were no good guys." - (drook) - (3) - Aug. 16, 2017, 11:00:13 AM EDT

Buy a history book. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 16, 2017, 11:55:01 AM EDT

Care to narrow that down a bit? -NT - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 16, 2017, 12:00:35 PM EDT

Re: Care to narrow that down a bit? - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 16, 2017, 12:15:53 PM EDT

You're a day late and a dollar short. - (CRConrad) - (9) - Aug. 17, 2017, 03:02:10 AM EDT

No mention of privilege? Re-read Drew's post. Here, I'll help you, since you obviously need it. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - Aug. 17, 2017, 08:39:30 AM EDT

"Read me in my posts", as someone used to say. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2017, 09:04:33 AM EDT

It's great to have you back. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 17, 2017, 11:08:11 AM EDT

Baltimore isn't constrained by the state laws about removing monuments. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 17, 2017, 09:11:36 AM EDT

Re: ... the other party controls the legislature via gerrymandering and voter suppression. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2017, 11:21:01 AM EDT

(One arrives at such a conclusion fairly: only after it marinates-well. I wot.) - (Ashton) - Aug. 17, 2017, 04:15:32 PM EDT

Yes, Baltimore did it the next day. I wonder why ... -NT - (drook) - (2) - Aug. 17, 2017, 09:23:14 AM EDT

I've withdrawn from being an advocate of violent revolution. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2017, 11:21:46 AM EDT

eh? yer off the flogging committee then, -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 17, 2017, 07:16:06 PM EDT

Really? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:43:17 PM EDT

Sorry. Not enough words on my part. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:47:41 PM EDT

No it's not - (crazy) - Aug. 15, 2017, 10:01:05 PM EDT

local controls - (rcareaga) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:24:24 PM EDT

Impossible? Bah, nothing is impossible. - (CRConrad) - Aug. 16, 2017, 07:24:49 AM EDT

Or, perhaps even better... - (CRConrad) - Aug. 16, 2017, 07:27:48 AM EDT

Try ... the 'Korean War' for a negative conclusion.. - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:52:23 PM EDT

that was a tie and still isnt over -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2017, 07:14:07 PM EDT

Actually, there are some - (scoenye) - (4) - Aug. 15, 2017, 06:35:41 PM EDT

And for something on the wrong side of the tracks and closer to current events - (scoenye) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2017, 09:00:09 PM EDT

Passing strange, this all.. - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 31, 2017, 09:56:46 PM EDT

The monument was "dual use" from the get go - (scoenye) - (1) - Sept. 2, 2017, 10:58:05 AM EDT

Belatedly.. this manifestly-schizoid chain of events may illuminate just why - (Ashton) - Sept. 17, 2017, 08:08:51 PM EDT

yes in every town square altho to be fair it also includes all lives lost in all wars - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2017, 07:11:40 PM EDT

Every town and village in the UK has a war memorial - (pwhysall) - (7) - Aug. 16, 2017, 03:00:21 AM EDT

Aussie ones are about remembering the fallen, too. -NT - (static) - Aug. 16, 2017, 06:30:10 AM EDT

We've got those, too - (drook) - Aug. 16, 2017, 08:11:33 AM EDT

The clear intent of the things here can be inferred from the timing. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 16, 2017, 08:36:01 AM EDT

That Drum link: yes, that -NT - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 16, 2017, 08:51:03 AM EDT

Indeed, graph needs words; Drum has them. -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 16, 2017, 06:24:21 PM EDT

curious, have you actually seen "birth of a nation"? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 16, 2017, 06:59:17 PM EDT

Yup. Saw it in class in HS. -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 16, 2017, 08:48:04 PM EDT

Don't know when that statue was erected, but the Robert E. Lee one in C'ville was 1924. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:32:58 PM EDT

And into the present one. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 15, 2017, 04:34:32 PM EDT

PS: Just NOW I hear [his audio] Prez. Orange declaim - (Ashton) - Aug. 15, 2017, 05:23:14 PM EDT

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