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I suppose that NYT will not focus upon so much not-learned: such as the frequent Imperial actions which belie our so often sanctimonious pretenses, as we Butt-in just about everywhere. (C'mon, who'd believe a truly Murican-'soul-searching exposé, anyway !?)
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Vietnam: The War That Killed TrustIntro, with a few early comments inserted by NYT:
The legacy of the war still shapes America, even if most of us are too young to remember it.
Vietnam '67
Karl Marlantes
VIETNAM '67 JAN. 7, 2017
In the early spring of 1967, I was in the middle of a heated 2 a.m. hallway discussion with fellow students at Yale about the Vietnam War. I was from a small town in Oregon, and I had already joined the Marine Corps Reserve. My friends were mostly from East Coast prep schools. One said that Lyndon B. Johnson was lying to us about the war. I blurted out, “But … but an American president wouldn’t lie to Americans!” They all burst out laughing.(Not to imply here that, maybe understanding a few Lessons learned during this ill-conceived and later LBJ obsessionally-managed clusterfuck? ..could assuage the damages borne by the obviously-maimed there/here ..and then all their close relatives).
When I told that story to my children, they all burst out laughing, too. Of course presidents lie. All politicians lie. God, Dad, what planet are you from?
Before the Vietnam War, most Americans were like me. After the Vietnam War, most Americans are like my children.
America didn’t just lose the war, and the lives of 58,000 young men and women; Vietnam changed us as a country. In many ways, for the worse: It made us cynical and distrustful of our institutions, especially of government. For many people, it eroded the notion, once nearly universal, that part of being an American was serving your country.
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But not everything about the war was negative. As a Marine lieutenant in Vietnam, I saw how it threw together young men from diverse racial and ethnic backgrounds and forced them to trust one another with their lives. It was a racial crucible that played an enormous, if often unappreciated, role in moving America toward real integration.
And yet even as Vietnam continues to shape our country, its place in our national consciousness is slipping. Some 65 percent of Americans are under 45 and so unable to even remember the war. Meanwhile, our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, our involvement in Syria, our struggle with terrorism — these conflicts are pushing Vietnam further into the background.
All the more reason, then, for us to revisit the war and its consequences for today. This essay inaugurates a new series by The Times, Vietnam ’67, that will examine how the events of 1967 and early 1968 shaped Vietnam, America and the world. Hopefully, it will generate renewed conversation around that history, now half a century past.
What readers take away from that conversation is another matter. If all we do is debate why we lost, or why we were there at all, we will miss the truly important question: What did the war do to us as Americans?
CYNICISM
Vietnam changed the way we looked at politics. We became inured to our leaders lying in the war: the fabricated Gulf of Tonkin incident, the number of “pacified provinces” (and what did “pacified” mean, anyway?), the inflated body counts.
People talked about Johnson’s “credibility gap.” This was a genteel way of saying that the president was lying. Then, however, a credibility gap was considered unusual and bad. By the end of the war, it was still considered bad, but it was no longer unusual. When politicians lie today, fact checkers might point out what is true, but then everyone moves on.
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I suppose that NYT will not focus upon so much not-learned: such as the frequent Imperial actions which belie our so often sanctimonious pretenses, as we Butt-in just about everywhere. (C'mon, who'd believe a truly Murican-'soul-searching exposé, anyway !?)
Bon {{Sƒorzando of approaching/marauding helicopter noises}} appetít.