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New Privacy is the least of your worries on Android
The massive shambling shitshow that is the security and updates situation, that's your big worry.

/flees
New Re: Privacy is the least of your worries on Android
Good point, although that's iPad-specific.

The issue is really the update situation, and it's two-fold*:

1. Even Nexus devices don't get OS updates for long enough - basically every Android device on the planet drops off the support roadmap after about two years
2. Carriers are chiselling grasping bastards
3. Vendors are chiselling grasping bastards
4. Google can't or won't use the Google Play Services agreement to circumvent 2 and 3 (e.g. by enforcing a rational Android OS update programme)

There's lots wrong with Apple, of course, but 2 and 3, whilst still true, don't prevent updates from getting to my phone.

There's a hypothetical 5, too - the ability to tick the box that says "use unknown app sources" or whatever it's called. I'm pretty sure most people who do that in order to get App X on their phone aren't fully cognisant of the implications, and there's piss-all Google can do (short of having real-time dynamic app security analytics including static analysis - basically the security audit that's done as part of accepting apps into the Play Store - built into Android itself) to protect people.

*I lied
     Pixel XL. Ouch. - (Another Scott) - (61)
         I want my e911 chip free flip phone back. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
             EVLeaks on Twitter mumbled something about flip phones coming back next year. - (Another Scott)
         Nice colors - (drook) - (2)
             Heh - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 Looks like these, too - (drook)
         So, it's not a loss leader. :) - (a6l6e6x)
         Re: Pixel XL. Ouch. - (pwhysall) - (12)
             They're offering a new ecosystem with very fast hardware. - (Another Scott) - (11)
                 Eh? No they're not - (pwhysall) - (10)
                     Disagree. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                         How to get assistant everywhere in 2 steps - (pwhysall) - (2)
                             Re: giving up in a couple of years - (drook) - (1)
                                 iPhone? 4 years for many - (pwhysall)
                     Google Fi FTW - (drook) - (3)
                         It does sound appealing. I use very little data most months. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                             Yeah, you pay for all your data - (drook) - (1)
                                 The unthrottled foreign data sounds great... - (Another Scott)
                     Mossberg thinks it's a big deal. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         He's an outlier on this one - (pwhysall)
         If you want a Pixel, avoid Verizon - (pwhysall) - (19)
             Verizon's always been evil. - (Another Scott) - (18)
                 Worse than the ringtone - (drook) - (1)
                     Oooh. I'd forgotten about that. -NT - (Another Scott)
                 I couldn't care less about the bootloader - (pwhysall) - (15)
                     Yeahbut... - (Another Scott) - (14)
                         Yeahbut what? - (pwhysall) - (13)
                             "Don't be evil" - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                 You just did "ooh look a monkey" - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                     All I'm saying is one is no better or worse than the other. The reasons may vary, but both are evil. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                         So what? - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                             Exactly. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                 And I just told you why not. - (pwhysall)
                             Eh? I don't like Verizon. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                 Google doesn't need to sell phones, though. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                     But... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         Sure - (pwhysall)
                                     +5, Interesting. - (static) - (2)
                                         Might be worth double-checking that - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                             No, it's not locked to Telstra. - (static)
         Decided I just can't do it. New T-Mobile $330 LG V10 looks like a possible winner. - (Another Scott) - (21)
             New ones at eBay for $280. - (Another Scott)
             It arrived today. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                 when I get a new, the local tmobile store is happy to put a sim in for me free -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                     Good to know. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         they are as competent with their products as the applestore folks with theirs -NT - (boxley)
                 Bah. The cutter, etc., won't arrive until Monday. Grr... -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Patience, Grasshopper! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             Initial thoughts. - (Another Scott) - (12)
                 heh, just got a new t-mobile android phone - (boxley) - (11)
                     :-) Rub it in. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (10)
                         Any privacy concerns with Assistant on your part? - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                             Not yet. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                 Voice recognition is vastly better in my new phone - (drook) - (4)
                                     Agreed (vastly better) for my G6 - (crazy) - (3)
                                         Did some looking - (drook) - (2)
                                             Thanks - (crazy) - (1)
                                                 Yeah, online is actually faster -NT - (drook)
                                 Privacy is the least of your worries on Android - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                     Re: Privacy is the least of your worries on Android - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         Re: Privacy is the least of your worries on Android - (pwhysall)
             Down to $300 at B&H now. -NT - (Another Scott)

This is to prove I can paint like Titian.
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