Post #413,150
8/29/16 12:15:30 PM
8/29/16 12:15:30 PM
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YTF are you ok with putting lead in the air?
Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #413,154
8/29/16 12:25:50 PM
8/29/16 12:25:50 PM
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Because there isn't a safe alternative yet.
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Post #413,157
8/29/16 1:53:31 PM
8/29/16 1:53:31 PM
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Safe for *whom*?
Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #413,159
8/29/16 1:55:53 PM
8/29/16 1:55:53 PM
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The people in the airplane and the people on the ground they might crash into.
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Post #413,164
8/29/16 2:31:20 PM
8/29/16 2:31:20 PM
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Not a problem if they aren't in the air. HTH.
Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #413,166
8/29/16 2:37:37 PM
8/29/16 2:37:37 PM
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heh. Thanks for making my point.
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Post #413,186
8/30/16 4:10:07 AM
8/30/16 4:10:07 AM
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Yeah, there is.
Not flying until you get your unleaded shit together.
Why do you think you've got a free pass to emit something we know is seriously bad mojo - so much so that the car makers sorted their shit out, and you can be sure they didn't do that out of the goodness of their hearts - just so you can do your hobby?
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Post #413,195
8/30/16 8:14:13 AM
8/30/16 8:14:13 AM
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My ancestors didn't listen to you folks. Why should I?
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Post #413,205
8/30/16 11:39:39 AM
8/30/16 11:39:39 AM
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Well, that's one way to not answer the question.
But I think we all know that you don't actually have an answer other than "I wanna fly, so fuck you!"
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Post #413,206
8/30/16 11:51:21 AM
8/30/16 11:51:21 AM
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You won't just be screwing me.
Ask Bill how easy things would be in Alaska, for example, if piston aircraft were grounded. Or the recipients of Angel Flights. Or Pilots N Paws rescue pilots. Or look at what us bad, privileged piston aircraft pilots did after Katrina hit. A lot of people will suffer if you ground piston aircraft because of the fuel. You'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face. On balance, GA contributes vastly more than it harms. And we're getting rid of it anyway (see link below).
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Post #413,209
8/30/16 12:09:04 PM
8/30/16 12:09:04 PM
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Scientific American
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lead-in-aviation-fuel/Some of the health effects of repeated exposure to lead include damage to the central nervous system, kidneys and red blood cells, and decreased function in the cardiovascular and immune systems. Lower IQ levels and learning disabilities can also result from lead exposure, especially in children, whose young bodies are more sensitive than those of adults. And scientists at the National Toxicology Program have concluded that lead and lead compounds are “reasonably anticipated to be human carcinogens.”
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recognizes lead as a neurotoxin and in 2008 set tough new standards for how much of it is safe in our air. In 2010 the agency identified 16 U.S. regions that fail to meet clean air standards for airborne lead; all either contained or were near airports where leaded avgas is the norm. But the EPA has not yet restricted lead in avgas, even though unleaded avgas is available.
A 2011 Duke University study found that kids living within 500 meters of an airport where leaded avgas is used have higher blood lead levels than other children, with elevated lead levels in blood found in kids as far as one kilometer away. The EPA estimates that 16 million Americans live close to one of 22,000 airports where leaded avgas is routinely used—and three million children go to schools near these airports. GA pilots should be pressuring the relevant suppliers and authorities to develop the required fuel ASAP. (It should have been done decades ago, obviously.) You know that the phase-out of lead is coming, you know that lead is toxic, you know that post-Flint political pressure to get lead out of kids is going to increase, so you might as well show that you're a responsible group by getting out in front of it. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #413,214
8/30/16 1:08:03 PM
8/30/16 1:08:03 PM
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I'll stop at Anderson whenever I get the chance.
Of course, I'll have to check with the FAA that UL94 is approved for Continental O-300 engines. I'm dubious and unwilling to take a chance. Unleaded AvGas has been "being worked on" for quite some time. However, and this point cannot be overstated, the auto industry could move faster because they never had to contend with the FAA. The FAA is lapped by glaciers routinely.
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Post #413,218
8/30/16 3:01:43 PM
8/30/16 3:01:43 PM
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Looks like you're good to go, but I may be missing something.
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Post #413,220
8/30/16 3:48:09 PM
8/30/16 3:48:09 PM
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Thanks, I'll look.
But unless they've issued a new one, I already have the Unleaded Fuel STC. A few years back, the FAA issued a statement that none of those were good because none of those were issued when ethanol was in the fuel. With this fuel, though, I might be good to go. Worth looking into anyway. Thanks again.
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Post #413,208
8/30/16 11:53:42 AM
8/30/16 12:06:00 PM
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Pretty much
I had a lesson once. It was an amazing feeling. I can understand the godlike draw of flying a small plane. It was better than skydiving. Hell, I'd risk a bunch of other people to continue the experience. So I understand the irrational viewpoint.
Edited by crazy
Aug. 30, 2016, 12:06:00 PM EDT
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