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Post #41,269

6/5/02 12:01:13 PM

The more I test, the more confused I get

I'm going to have to give up pretty soon. As far as I can tell, I've done EVERYTHING within my power to make this thing work.

The working machine doesn't work when I put the new CPU in it. But when I put the old CPU in it, it works.

The nonworking machine doesn't work when I put the new OR the old CPU in it.

The nonworking machine doesn't work when I use a 300W or 400W power supply. Perhaps I need to go all the way up to 450? From what I've read, 400 should be sufficient.

The nonworking machine just doesn't work. Old motherboard, new motherboard, old CPU, new CPU (I even put a Duron CPU in there, no dice), original ram, working ram, old case, new case, nothing. I'm obviously doing something wrong, but I'm too disgusted to bother trying to figure it out.

Fuck computers. I'm about on the verge of learning a new goddamned trade. This is ridiculous.

"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young

Post #41,271

by Another Scott

6/5/02 12:16:53 PM

6/5/02 12:29:54 PM

Speak of the devil....

I'm putting a new PC together now. It worked fine when first turned on. I changed the BIOS settings some (turbo mode, etc.), put in the Win2K CD-ROM, rebooted, got a BIOS message that the floppy drive failed (noticed the power cable wasn't connected), Win2K started booting from the CD. I hit CAD to end the bootup, then turned the power off.

I connected the floppy power connector, powered it on and nothing. A LED lights on the motherboard, but the PS fan doesn't run.

:-(

I'm in the process of diagnosing it. I suspect something died in the PS.

PC Power and Cooling has an ATX power supply diagnosis page [link|http://www.pcpowercooling.com/support/index_ATX.htm|here] that I'm going through now. Maybe it'll help you too.

{added in edit}

< a few minutes later... >

In my case I didn't need to go through the PS diagnosis.

Since the system worked before I plugged in the floppy power connector, I unplugged the floppy power connector and powered the system up. It came up fine. I then turned it off again, reconnected the floppy power connector, and powered it up. It again came up fine.

I suspect that I didn't have the floppy power connector installed correctly, or gremlins....

I hope you figure out what's happening with your system.

Cheers,
Scott.

Edited by Another Scott June 5, 2002, 12:29:54 PM EDT

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Can someone help me troubleshoot this problem? - (cwbrenn) - (32) - June 4, 2002, 03:04:22 PM EDT

Sounds like a power problem to me. - (Another Scott) - June 4, 2002, 03:19:10 PM EDT

one off the wall maybe - (boxley) - (2) - June 4, 2002, 04:34:32 PM EDT

I'll try that. - (cwbrenn) - (1) - June 4, 2002, 05:06:53 PM EDT

Alas, alack. - (cwbrenn) - June 4, 2002, 10:21:58 PM EDT

Best bet for testing PS - (Steven A S) - (1) - June 4, 2002, 04:34:46 PM EDT

I've gone one further than that. - (cwbrenn) - June 4, 2002, 05:04:12 PM EDT

Hehehe.... Okay. Now we really get sticky... - (folkert) - (10) - June 4, 2002, 10:26:34 PM EDT

you mean... it might be a problem with the TOWER? - (cwbrenn) - (5) - June 4, 2002, 10:41:30 PM EDT

Case in point! - (folkert) - (4) - June 4, 2002, 11:15:20 PM EDT

Ok, it's not the case - (cwbrenn) - (3) - June 5, 2002, 10:57:44 AM EDT

BOG.... - (folkert) - June 5, 2002, 09:13:38 PM EDT

On using force - - (Ashton) - (1) - June 6, 2002, 01:40:39 AM EDT

Grounding motherboards. - (static) - June 6, 2002, 08:00:48 AM EDT

Uh.. yeah - (Ashton) - (3) - June 4, 2002, 10:59:06 PM EDT

Saw a huge batch... - (folkert) - (2) - June 4, 2002, 11:30:00 PM EDT

PC electronics appears most often to be a POS - (Ashton) - (1) - June 5, 2002, 12:25:18 AM EDT

Splain'd - (folkert) - June 5, 2002, 09:05:28 PM EDT

Longshots - (Ashton) - June 4, 2002, 10:47:21 PM EDT

The more I test, the more confused I get - (cwbrenn) - (1) - June 5, 2002, 12:01:13 PM EDT

Speak of the devil.... - (Another Scott) - June 5, 2002, 12:29:54 PM EDT

Interesting. Encouraging results. - (cwbrenn) - (2) - June 6, 2002, 05:22:04 AM EDT

You call that encouraging? - (drewk) - (1) - June 6, 2002, 10:32:07 AM EDT

Yeah, well... - (cwbrenn) - June 6, 2002, 11:40:16 AM EDT

Mysterly solved... and I AM AN IDIOT :) - (cwbrenn) - (8) - June 6, 2002, 04:24:04 PM EDT

This is like the 'made for IE' pages that break in Mozilla - (drewk) - June 6, 2002, 04:45:20 PM EDT

Idiot? Come on! - (Meerkat) - June 6, 2002, 08:13:36 PM EDT

Not an idiot. - (static) - (5) - June 6, 2002, 10:32:30 PM EDT

Definitely Not an idiot. - (jbrabeck) - (4) - June 7, 2002, 09:02:06 AM EDT

Oddly though - - (Ashton) - (3) - June 7, 2002, 07:06:47 PM EDT

That's rare! - (static) - June 9, 2002, 02:14:42 AM EDT

Don't recall ever seeing "ground loop" mentioned . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - June 9, 2002, 02:31:35 AM EDT

Could be mfg.-memory on that phrase.. - (Ashton) - June 10, 2002, 01:59:14 AM EDT

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