the fate of NSA whistleblowers - (rcareaga) - (32) - May 23, 2016, 10:28:28 AM EDT
         Well, at least our 4th Estate repor...., er, ... never mind. -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 23, 2016, 12:06:04 PM EDT
         Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (30) - May 23, 2016, 12:54:42 PM EDT
             "Things they didn't like." - (mmoffitt) - (1) - May 23, 2016, 02:12:51 PM EDT
                 Just because you don't like the oversight doesn't mean there wasn't any... - (Another Scott) - May 23, 2016, 02:41:58 PM EDT
             Why the scare quotes? - (rcareaga) - (14) - May 23, 2016, 03:11:56 PM EDT
                 There's too much history to dig through for a detailed answer. - (Another Scott) - May 23, 2016, 03:27:29 PM EDT
                 Re: Why the scare quotes? -NT - (Ashton) - May 24, 2016, 07:37:30 AM EDT
                 Re: Why the scare quotes? -NT - (Ashton) - May 24, 2016, 07:37:31 AM EDT
                 Re: Why the scare quotes? -NT - (Ashton) - May 24, 2016, 07:37:31 AM EDT
                 Have to pile on here, for recalling Ed Murrow's earnest comment to his staff - (Ashton) - (9) - May 24, 2016, 08:05:36 AM EDT
                     It really is different, I think. - (Another Scott) - (8) - May 24, 2016, 11:29:47 AM EDT
                         So you'd prosecute Ellsberg? -NT - (rcareaga) - (7) - May 24, 2016, 01:32:30 PM EDT
                             Dunno, but probably not. - (Another Scott) - (6) - May 24, 2016, 05:53:16 PM EDT
                                 "Snowden is no Ellsberg" - (rcareaga) - (5) - May 24, 2016, 06:31:56 PM EDT
                                     Re: "Snowden is no Ellsberg" - (Another Scott) - (4) - May 24, 2016, 06:41:05 PM EDT
                                         Different Time, ∆ ages/experience-levels of the protags ... different aims re a desired response - (Ashton) - (3) - May 25, 2016, 06:49:50 PM EDT
                                             I'm not arguing that humans are perfectable or can make perfectable systems. - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 25, 2016, 10:25:57 PM EDT
                                                 Belatedly.. - (Ashton) - (1) - June 15, 2016, 06:50:12 PM EDT
                                                     Thanks. We'll have to battle again when he's back in the USA. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - June 15, 2016, 11:39:15 PM EDT
             Re: Underlings don't decide policy. - (a6l6e6x) - (12) - May 23, 2016, 04:43:19 PM EDT
                 True, but ... - (Another Scott) - (11) - May 23, 2016, 05:12:41 PM EDT
                     Manning and Padilla were driven insane by the system in question - (jake123) - (4) - May 23, 2016, 06:27:42 PM EDT
                         Different. - (Another Scott) - (3) - May 23, 2016, 06:52:28 PM EDT
                             author of the account is on the local NPR affiliate - (rcareaga) - (2) - May 25, 2016, 12:44:05 PM EDT
                                 Yeah, it's a slanted piece. It's from the Hudson Institute. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 25, 2016, 01:42:14 PM EDT
                                     Hheheeeeehaaahaaaaa - (crazy) - May 25, 2016, 05:06:45 PM EDT
                     You should have been part of the defense team - (rcareaga) - (5) - May 25, 2016, 02:49:54 PM EDT
                         Scott's only following orders! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - May 25, 2016, 03:05:13 PM EDT
                             Ouch. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 25, 2016, 03:18:11 PM EDT
                                 I wasn't likening you to the defendants - (rcareaga) - (1) - May 25, 2016, 03:43:35 PM EDT
                                     "Democratic Traditions" - (Another Scott) - May 25, 2016, 05:23:39 PM EDT
                         Saved me the trouble of mentioning that: "Aber es war doch Policy zu gassen die Juden!" - (CRConrad) - June 14, 2017, 12:39:05 PM EDT