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New Doing a college tour at Converse College in Spartanberg NC on Jan 10th tentative
They are interested in offering a scholarship to my daughter to join their lacrosse team. What should I look for?

She wasn't planning on college but doesn't want to stop playing lacrosse but this is her last year of eligibility for high school teams. She loves to play tuba and they have a music program as well. No welding classes offered (what she wants to do) but she is interested in psychology.

Dunno about their "degree" better than just highschool I imagine.
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Expand Edited by boxley Jan. 6, 2016, 10:24:04 PM EST
New South Carolina? ;-)
Looks like it has decent accreditations - http://www.converse.edu/about/our-mission-history/accreditations-and-affiliations

The QEP program looks interesting - http://www.converse.edu/about/accreditations-and-affiliations/converse-qep

What does the scholarship cover? Tuition is just a small part of the cost of college. What are all the fees? Will she be on your insurance? Do they offer insurance for a reasonable rate? Do they have work/study programs? Even if the money is low, it can be a great experience (and keeps you from studying perpetually, or slacking off perpetually. :-)

What's the student housing like for freshmen? College can be a big change. Fighting for grades is more tolerable if you don't also have to feel like an outcast in your dorm, or have crappy food, or a drafty dorm or ...

Will she need a car? Does the campus have a transportation system?

The school is #52 in the list in its category in Washington Monthly's rankings - http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings-2015/best-bang-for-buck-southeast-rank.php - lots of schools seem to have similar rankings (9) in that group. Look at the graduation rate, the student loan default rate, etc. The graduation rate seems below average for its group (-1.5% below average).

With all that said, college is often more a matter of clicking with the people around you (teachers, fellow students, others) than the "prestige" or "quality" of the school. She needs to find a place that she's willing to struggle and think and grow at for 4 years. A "good school" where she's miserable and which crushes her psyche is a poor bargain. A "party school" with less "prestige" where she does well can be worth a lot.

If she ends up not being able to finish, it can be very difficult to start again later. Especially if she has loans. :-( If she's not sure she's ready, sometimes doing something else (Peace Corps? Traveling? Playing in a band?) and waiting a year can make more sense for some people than jumping in right after HS.

It sounds like a great opportunity! Best of luck with the figuring and with her choice!

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
New since they lost their last game of the season 21-0 and the coach is new I want full ride :-}
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
New IMO, the most important thing to find out.
I was absolutely blind-sided by something about a really well known university in Bloomington, Indiana. Sexual assaults there are above the national average and the national average is 1 in 6 women attending college will be assaulted before they graduate. At IU, it's 1 in 5. Stats on this are very, very, very difficult to come by because universities hide these assaults. Most don't even keep a record of how many are reported, let alone how many go unreported. At IU, for instance, the local police department is comprised of *IU employees* and like the university itself, it has a tremendous incentive to under-report sexual assaults. And you'll love the euphemisms for rape. At IU, rape is called "sexual contact without consent." The penalty for rape at IU is almost never expulsion. Most often it's "take a semester off - maybe attend a junior college, and then come back." In most cases, the rape victims are then supposed to attend classes with their assailants. If you're like me, that's incomprehensible, but I assure you it's the case.

I had a conversation with Dean of Student Ethics at IU (and I have it recorded lest there be any doubts about the accuracy of my claim) about how even when the university determines that a student is guilty of rape (and that's never done in a courtroom, it's always done by a faculty board so as not to be reported in the papers) why the student isn't immediately expelled. Here's a telling part of that conversation:

Me: It's a simple policy idea, really. If you commit an act of sexual violence, you are not welcome here.
Dean: Oh, I'd never go along with a blanket policy like that. And I don't think you'd find a university in this country that would.

My advice would be to ask the university how many students had been found guilty of rape (or "sexual contact without consent" or whatever euphemism they use) and of those, how many were expelled. I'd ask them what their policy was on sexually violent acts and I'd see any crime statistics that were available.

If you're like me, the thought of something like this has never occurred to you. But the fact is there is a non-trivial probability that your daughter will be sexually assaulted before she graduates and the university will do everything in its power to cover it up.
New Converse is a woman's college for undergraduates, coed for grad.
That may moderate concerns.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Didn't know that.
New yabbut clemson is just down the road isnt it?
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
New Yep, the Clemson animals are just down I-85.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
     Doing a college tour at Converse College in Spartanberg NC on Jan 10th tentative - (boxley) - (7)
         South Carolina? ;-) - (Another Scott) - (1)
             since they lost their last game of the season 21-0 and the coach is new I want full ride :-} -NT - (boxley)
         IMO, the most important thing to find out. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
             Converse is a woman's college for undergraduates, coed for grad. - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
                 Didn't know that. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 yabbut clemson is just down the road isnt it? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                     Yep, the Clemson animals are just down I-85. -NT - (a6l6e6x)

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