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Post #407,096
by malraux
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12/21/15 9:18:18 AM
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New Different situation with this guy
He wouldn't work with anyone unless they did exactly what he told them to, started major projects completely by himself without the Chief Software Architect (me) even knowing about them, and so on.

Fail faster at this place meant hours of downtime on a Monday where each hour had at least 7 digits attached to it.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #407,099
by drook
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12/21/15 11:54:58 AM
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New But what about small teams?
Remember I started this from Joel's post about getting the best developers at a very small company, where each person might be working on a project solo. In those cases maybe you don't care so much about personality and teamwork.

As for always doing things his way, which is better: a half-dozen people spending several days trying to reach a compromise on the best direction, or that same group all going in a reasonable direction set down by the most forceful personality?

Obviously someone should see those expensive Mondays you describe and do something about it. But with enough prior reputation someone could survive one or two of those as the cost of being aggressive.
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Drew
Post #407,100
by malraux
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12/21/15 12:01:35 PM
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New You do care about it.
Because small companies become (hopefully) big companies, and by that time the asshole is too deeply ingrained to get rid of. And now that the company is big, his asshattery is causing bigger, more expensive problems, and he isn't (supposed to be) working on solo projects any more.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #407,101
by Another Scott
12/21/15 12:45:02 PM
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New One could argue that you should care *more* in small company cases.
While the potential damage may be greater in a larger company, in that case you have the potential to "route around the damage" by, say, getting other managers involved. When the company is small, each piece has relatively more of the company resting on it.

Cheers,
Scott.
     Grub2 zero day bug - Hit backspace 28 times... - (Another Scott) - (20) - Dec. 19, 2015, 05:05:42 PM EST
         if they can get to your console you have more problems than that - (boxley) - (3) - Dec. 19, 2015, 06:38:07 PM EST
             Been there for a while longer than 2012 - (scoenye) - (2) - Dec. 19, 2015, 09:17:38 PM EST
                 Red China is behind it. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Dec. 21, 2015, 11:39:09 AM EST
                     Well, Netscreen was Chinese. Maybe someone got creative with git... -NT - (scoenye) - Dec. 21, 2015, 06:42:58 PM EST
         Well, damn! - (a6l6e6x) - (15) - Dec. 19, 2015, 10:32:14 PM EST
             Somebody needs to pay for it. :-( -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 19, 2015, 10:54:41 PM EST
             ESR was wrong - (pwhysall) - (13) - Dec. 20, 2015, 03:06:07 AM EST
                 It's the high notes - (drook) - (12) - Dec. 20, 2015, 09:28:48 AM EST
                     Yeahbut... - (Another Scott) - (11) - Dec. 20, 2015, 10:18:09 AM EST
                         Some insight, some questionable strategy - (drook) - (10) - Dec. 20, 2015, 10:57:37 AM EST
                             Here's the thing: - (malraux) - (9) - Dec. 20, 2015, 03:34:22 PM EST
                                 had one of those at a previous place, my last job as an FTE - (boxley) - Dec. 20, 2015, 04:33:37 PM EST
                                 There is a connection, though - (drook) - (7) - Dec. 20, 2015, 08:26:32 PM EST
                                     team the two tegether, that gets all of the I's dotted and leaps of faith dissected -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 20, 2015, 06:20:02 PM EST
                                     I know more highly productive people who aren't toxic, however. - (malraux) - (5) - Dec. 20, 2015, 09:51:39 PM EST
                                         Think about it from management's side - (drook) - (4) - Dec. 21, 2015, 01:13:22 AM EST
                                             Different situation with this guy - (malraux) - (3) - Dec. 21, 2015, 09:18:18 AM EST
                                                 But what about small teams? - (drook) - (2) - Dec. 21, 2015, 11:54:58 AM EST
                                                     You do care about it. - (malraux) - (1) - Dec. 21, 2015, 12:01:35 PM EST
                                                         One could argue that you should care *more* in small company cases. - (Another Scott) - Dec. 21, 2015, 12:45:02 PM EST

Just the facts, ma'am.
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