Ah, for the good old days

Post #404,223 by malraux 8/22/15 4:04:23 PM Reply	Ah, for the good old days We don't get enough technical dissension here these days. ;-) I'm having a lively discussion about the relative merits of iOS vs. Android viz. security over on a Google+ thread. Makes me pine for the IWT days of yore when the posts were filled with well-intentioned vitriol, and we butted heads with the likes of Brett "GNU's Not Urs" Glass, ..ooOO Mssr. Merlin OOoo.., whastshisface of the School of Objective Beauty And Morality, and The Nameless Ones from the eldritch sunken continents of Tabelandia and MuPD. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #404,225 by drook 8/22/15 6:42:52 PM Reply	Get your head examined -- Drew
Post #404,228 by malraux 8/22/15 7:39:11 PM Reply	Re: Get your head examined Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #404,230 by Ashton 8/22/15 8:59:04 PM Reply	..and even the MicroSoftie who infamously stated, "If it's legal it's ethical". No, he really SAID that, maybe while we were still at IW? or in first reincarnation blog. Well, I'll still battle over the priorities of theoretical physics -vs- philosophy and like that, but with no expectations of any epiphanies sobering up any major capitalist tools, Hmmm.. maybe we've (all) already answered the (now in bright-LEDs-) 'Existential Questions', so don't chime in where the story title already indicates Visigoths, vandals at work. Or seeking an unhackable system. Given the %matters now at ludicrous stage, my own recyclable excuse for abandoning many an uncompleted topical evisceration (elsewhere) is, ~~ Is this topic more rewarding than? my noticing that Cat X has brought a present to the front door mat and is still there, pining for ~~the Fjords~~ my appreciative recognition. (Closest I can get to scale n'relativity, ever since the USSC sent us the Shogunate and all the assholes who loved it, got rich, broke everything and now bray a lot.) :-0
Post #404,232 by Another Scott 8/22/15 9:18:39 PM Reply	Dale Ross. There's even some of those arguments here in the archive. :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #404,243 by malraux 8/23/15 12:48:36 PM Reply	Amusingly... I was accused of being a paid Apple shill in the security thread. :-) Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #404,246 by Another Scott 8/23/15 12:54:18 PM Reply	rofl. It's such a trite form of argument these days. MM Paris France showed us long, long ago that there are plenty of people who will do shilling for free. Glad you got a chuckle out of it! Cheers, Scott.
Post #404,296 by Ashton 8/25/15 4:00:13 PM Reply	Yup, carried in jelloware until the last expulsion-try, of useless stuff except:--just after you Will-that and maybe erase a few paths--the next week you want That factoid! Proof of the perversity of the Cosmic Goo. #111011
Post #404,231 by boxley 8/22/15 9:07:03 PM Reply	security on phones is simple talk on it text maybe and turn off/remove everything else Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #404,233 by Another Scott 8/22/15 9:19:47 PM Reply	... and wrap it in aluminum foil.
Post #404,266 by mmoffitt 8/24/15 9:01:57 AM Reply	Copper mesh.
Post #404,269 by Another Scott 8/24/15 10:31:20 AM Reply	Mr. Faraday doesn't much care, I don't think. :-)
Post #404,242 by malraux 8/23/15 12:41:48 PM Reply	Security on anything is simple. Depends on what you're willing to give up. "Security at the expense of usability comes at the expense of security." Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #404,260 by static 8/23/15 10:47:41 PM Reply	That's a good quite. An LRPDism, even. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #404,268 by malraux 8/24/15 9:13:15 AM 8/24/15 9:13:43 AM Reply	Known as "AviD's Rule Of Usability" http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/6095/xkcd-936-short-complex-password-or-long-dictionary-passphrase/6116#6116 It echoes what other security experts have been saying for a while, but in a nice taut phrase. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. Edited by malraux Aug. 24, 2015, 09:13:43 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #404,278 by Ashton 8/24/15 8:03:20 PM Reply	!Muchas gracias, Señor! A keeper all around ..and perfect illustration of the computer/human dichotomy, on several scales. Must be passed around: know several with minimal formal math but insightful-wired jelloware ..and virtuoso BS-detectors. (Will also bet that they will see the elegance of this koan--as do I--as a fine rebuttal to the pecksniffery oft imposed from on-high, not only in bizness hierarchies. Our culture creates entirely too-many autodidacts who imagine that their one skill-set will suffice for all decisions.) Carrion.. sometimes it's tasty ;^>
Post #404,279 by Another Scott 8/24/15 8:17:55 PM Reply	Reminds me of what 3 Words http://what3words.com/ (mentioned here earlier - by you perhaps? ;-) ExplainXKCD has more. Cheers, Scott.
Post #404,295 by Ashton 8/25/15 3:49:04 PM Reply	“The best navigation idea since the tube map” What first-time traveler to Old Blighty/especially Londinium.. has Not brought back a bitchin small or HYARGE Map of the Tubes aka Underground? All ye need to know is right There, for train changes and coming Stops. (Mine was a "dish towel" thingy, colorful and all, which for years has been the dust-cover draped over the workbench scope ... fond remembrance of events in Stoke Newington, driving on the Wrong-side and ... ) That it can be transliterated and that name combos have a degree of self-checking for typo or other errata, seems a giant bonus. WHEN then , do the 1%? 0.1%? Smart People begin rolling out this System--not just makin Attagirl sounds--as for a jillion other CleverLad gifts to the zeitgeist? A worldwide military budget on a crash-diet could fund such simple matters instantly. (Except that nobody yet has an inkling of the cure for Sabre-rattling-Fever.. eg. Exhibit #1: any excrescences with the word Iran embedded somewhere.
Post #404,282 by static 8/25/15 2:08:33 AM Reply	Cool link. (Also I note they bump up against one of my pet hates about idiotic password controls: other than a very generous length (like over 100), you should accept _any_ character a user can post as a password. Including spaces, accented characters, obscure mathematical symbols or Chinese glyphs.) Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #404,235 by static 8/23/15 3:40:54 AM Reply	I don't miss the invective. Technical discussions yes, sure. Though I think in a lot of ways many of us have just outgrown them. Personal invective, though? Pass. I've never taken that well. Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #404,241 by malraux 8/23/15 12:40:25 PM Reply	This one started out that way. But with some proper behavioral modeling on my part and a constant, gentle pointing out of logical fallacies commited by my fellow pugilist, I managed to get the ad hominems out of the way. :-) I take particular delight in destroying the world views of those who are convinced that people who use Apple products are technical ignoramuses and wannabes. Also, if you're going to invoke Schneier's name for some down home style argument via authority, be prepared for me to quote him at you in contradiction. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #404,253 by boxley 8/23/15 5:48:38 PM Reply	eh, I got intel apple running on a dell lapper a few years back doubt if your average winders linux folk could do it. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #404,267 by mmoffitt 8/24/15 9:03:08 AM Reply	Or want to. </me ducks>
Post #404,259 by static 8/23/15 10:46:54 PM Reply	I applaud your persistence. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/

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