re meat: I wonder if in vitro meat will be a game changer.

Post #397,621 by Another Scott 12/29/14 11:03:32 AM Reply	re meat: I wonder if in vitro meat will be a game changer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat It's too expensive now, and there are undoubtedly issues that will crop up (contamination? lack of essential nutrients? patents/restraint of trade) as happened in the early days of "baby formula", but presumably those can be resolved. Cattle on an industrial scale is a big problem, but there's a lot of money behind it, also too. Cheers, Scott.
Post #397,622 by drook 12/29/14 11:12:43 AM Reply	Baby formula is the exact right comparison We're a century into that experiment and more and more docs are coming around to the view that breast feeding is still better, for reasons we're still not entirely sure of. Even supposing they could exactly reproduce the same meat in vitro as you get from a live animal, why should I believe they would produce that once they find a way to save a buck? -- Drew
Post #397,624 by Another Scott 12/29/14 12:33:27 PM Reply	Indeed.
Post #397,627 by dmcarls 12/29/14 1:23:47 PM Reply	Re: Baby formula is the exact right comparison >>> "..., for reasons we're still not entirely sure of." Some folks think it's because colostrum (breast milk) contains 'transfer factors', and is one method of building up the newborn's immune system. From the article: "They carry with them the parent lymphocyte's delayed-type hypersensitivity and cell-mediated immunity and pass it along to non-immune recipients,..." http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/transfer-factor
Post #397,707 by Ashton 12/30/14 7:06:51 PM Reply	Colostrum, indeed. Was one of the nostrums I employed re. a couple sick animals, and another example of what working-remedies go ^Zoooom^ over the brain pans of AMA-styled Vets, for the most part. Still, in 2014. (Of course too, while I may have seen some signs of its efficacy..? your 'data' (and that of lots of others who write reports) counts not a whit, when one's std. ref. is words from Big Pharma.) I note that 'transfer factor' derivatives, in capsule form, are out there. But the usual untraceability of their ingredients (for the interested and careful) means: you are your own lab, and unless you deal with n- patients, it's still a crap shoot. But that's the way capitalism works (and depends on. :-( I used liquid, as extracted; costs more/less dependent upon 'processors' of whatever expertise. Thanks for good reminder; sometimes all the 'methods' just runtogether as we amateurs try to compensate for universal obtuseness amidst the "Pros". Knowing they are deficient never makes a one automatically superior (either!)
Post #397,642 by a6l6e6x 12/29/14 3:59:32 PM Reply	Re: for reasons we're still not entirely sure of Well for the containers the milk comes from there's just no comparison! :) Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #397,643 by drook 12/29/14 4:17:20 PM Reply	Product idea Bras labeled "BPA free". -- Drew
Post #397,663 by a6l6e6x 12/29/14 10:12:30 PM Reply	Yuppies would buy that for sure. The Walmart crowd, not so much. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #397,679 by drook 12/30/14 7:57:42 AM Reply	Well they're the ones with the money, ain't they? -- Drew
Post #397,702 by a6l6e6x 12/30/14 6:34:59 PM Reply	That's a bingo! :) Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #397,629 by boxley 12/29/14 1:47:28 PM Reply	meh, I pay extra for buffalo steak Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #397,807 by mmoffitt 1/4/15 11:08:19 AM Reply	Me, too! Cook's bison ranch is just down the road from me and I've got 70 pounds of bison in the freezer. ;0)

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