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New 'Genetic Roulette: The Gamble of Our Lives' … Query: anyone see this in '12?
A measly 39K hits on big-G; no idea (yet..) if only the occasional PBS station carried it: seems odd, even for traditional Murican apathy towards all things cerebral. The posited incestuous relationships behind the Fed's don't worry your pretty head responses to all challenges, their baldfaced lying re. "consensus" of scientists: would provide adequate material for lIbel suits by many of the named, were their assertions bogus.

(I missed hearing about it; saw first time on KQED this PM.) It's a massive compilation of quotations by authors of (fleetingly shown) papers from which the comments are excerpted. There was no Intro on the topic, on the content, on any provenance, let alone: any rebuttals or even attempts at such.

In sum: this is a massive collection of seemingly non-hysterical competent Pros in their named fields, who are describing the most cynical and pervasive Corporate evasion of 'due diligence' imaginable, via Monsanto's CIEIO moving from corporate to an FDA position of huge influence, then back to Monsanto: all under the aegis of "feeding the world" (preparations for billions more, sans any hint of an alternative, say: seriously contemplating, investigating any sane means of reducing the birth-rate.)

As we have become collectively inured to the fact of Lying in bizness and government--for seeing the evidence all around--there seems to be a corollary effect, (probably measurable? via a decently supervised poll? of the effects of this 1 hr. film upon people across the spectrum of scientific education, from little to much. Is it cognitive dissonance? behind the apathy: the non-response to a posited conspiracy of such magnitude as dwarfs any (successful) scheme) of this magnitude (Teapot Dome? not even close..)

Nov. '14 Oregon referendum results.
Oregon's mandatory GMO-labeling initiative was voted down by a narrow margin Tuesday, capping the state's costliest ballot measure on record.

Measure 92 trailed by 1.2 percent, with fewer than 51 percent of voters in opposition.

By the time voting ended, the initiative had divided the Portland metro area. Multnomah County voters supported mandatory labeling, but Washington and Clackamas counties opposed it.

The measure was especially unpopular in eastern and central Oregon. The measure appeared on track to lose in nearly every county east of the Interstate 5 corridor, with the exception of Hood River County on Oregon's northern border.

However, it won support in the mid-Willamette Valley and in southern Oregon's Curry and Jackson counties. Jackson County approved a controversial GMO crops ban earlier this year.

Spending on both sides of the controversial proposal shattered all records for Oregon ballot measures.

Backers of the measure raised more than $8 million – a record for any "yes" side in an Oregon ballot measure campaign.

So again: was anyone here aware of this flic in '12? Saw it? [Link to free full video: is a few down the Google page.]


It's a docu-drama; you couldn't go into the side-effects of the gene-splicing 'scatter into random areas' and the implications. I intuit another possibility in the utterly anti-science of FDA and Corporate: "National Security AND vulture-Capitalism Security" under the rubric of saving-future-generations ... itself a conundrum: uncontrolled, you're going to extend Day Zero a tad longer, but it's STILL:

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Both FDR and BHO operated to Save the Status Quo re Econ--at whatever loss to chances of authentic reform (chances also present within the Emergency situations.) Monsanto epitomizes a new level of greed for future monopoly worldwide, via the rules which got us all here.
Aka (in words of John Cleese's unpublished opus, he mentioned) ... There is no Hope.
(Then there's Chris Hedges' book, The Myth of Human Progress: and the collapse of complex societies.
Even insanity can become a habit. (I go Pogo.)
Expand Edited by Ashton Dec. 29, 2014, 05:06:24 AM EST
New It's on Archive.org
https://archive.org/details/GeneticRouletteTheGambleOfOurLives

I started watching it, but there was too much fear-mongering even in the first couple of minutes for me...

The director is Jeffrey M. Smith:

In 1998, Smith ran unsuccessfully for Congress as a candidate for the Natural Law Party.[6] Smith is currently the executive director and sole employee of the Institute for Responsible Technology.[7]


The Natural Law Party -

The party proposed that political problems could be solved through alignment with the Unified Field of all the laws of nature through the use of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs. Leading members of party were associated with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, leader of Transcendental Meditation movement.

The U.S. version of the Natural Law Party ran John Hagelin as its presidential candidate in 1992, 1996, and 2000. The party also ran congressional and local candidates. It attempted to merge with the Reform Party in 2000. Several state affiliates have kept their ballot positions and have allied with other small parties.


Counterpoints to the claims in the book are here - http://academicsreview.org/reviewed-content/genetic-roulette/ (via an Amazon review). I haven't read them yet.

In sort, too much woo and fear mongering for me. YMMV.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Ahh.. I see the (insoluble) contradiction.
Yes, lots of Woo--clue: there's nary a soupçon of Yays in it. But obfuscation of some selective data-taking, to further an esoteric agenda nullifies, is counterproductive to demanding further oversights--as very well might be needed.

Figured next task was to proceed as you did: (Who He? ..reason I asked if anyone saw this in '12.) Odd that PBS seems to have demonstrated no more diligence than any YouTube screed
--simply dropping it there, sans Intro or comments on the source.

Academic Review seems thorough, but I have to wade through their topic summaries, particularly re. random fragments created along with the intended insertions.. I don't think we're finished with constructing the unusual oversights which DNA-for-profit demands: it's a bizness now. And all that implies. Were there an area for fear to be mongered, I'd place that squarely on the concept that "you can trust a bizness decision; if it's profitable, it must be safe." Food-like substances, anyone? If you don't ƒeare those ... (and they're still in most schools, in the dis-US.) DNA-for-profit -vs- fast-food: which is the scarier?

'General Science' is not enough for a CIEIO to decide which? specific-unknowns in your product.. matter. See: fracking/aquifers and "don't worry; we know what we're doing".
It's 2014, and the improbable has become a familiar, on many equally fraught topics, while the recklessness of Corporate has become a daily given. To be less than paranoid about Blankenship clones would be dumb.

Will do my homework on next weird essay--thanks for the Archive.org tip; Maybe Google-pro would have been best; general Google is becoming a morass. (Do we yet know the effects of those Paid-sortings?)


re T.M. and 'Natural Law' "Party?"
Meditation is a whole other topic; its efficacy has been demonstrated. But Murica is in the pure-Materialism category of populations. Science has its Dark-matter euphemism for one sort of unknown, but you can't "oversee" DNA research merely via any accreted-wisdom (?) you may or may not possess.

(But I walk both sides of that Street--soulless capitalism has deadened many normal human perceptions, often in pursuit solely of profits, by all means possible. Maybe a few generations from now there can be some cross-pollination, but that would require 'all new people' ..as they say.)
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         It's on Archive.org - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Ahh.. I see the (insoluble) contradiction. - (Ashton)

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