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Post #395,175 by pwhysall 10/1/14 2:32:04 PM Reply	No Regular external drives work fine for workaday stuff, but I've read stuff that indicates that the special case of booting off an OS X disc seems to require Apple's beautiful-but-expensive SuperDrive.
Post #395,178 by Another Scott 10/1/14 3:58:20 PM Reply	Weird. Hmm... It looks like Apple's been playing some games with their external optical drives. Some hackery may be required to have SuperDrives even work with some Macs. (boggle) Cheers, Scott.
Post #395,180 by pwhysall 10/1/14 4:28:40 PM Reply	Re: Weird. I think the Apple use case has now come down to "If this appliance in the configuration you buy today meets your needs now, and for up to the 3 years that the AppleCare lasts, you're golden. If not, well, OS X may not be for you." Frexample, I'm looking at what's coming down the gaming pipe, and I'm seeing games that (thanks to the PS4 and XB1's unified memory models, and the tendency of developers to write stuff with consoles in mind) have a requirement for 4GB of VRAM. This is inconvenient, but I can go out and buy an NVidia GTX 970, sell the GTX 660 on eBay, and carry on happily. Anything other than casual gaming on a Mac? Busted flush in the next 2 years. Even mildly graphically demanding games that would otherwise be fine will run like dogshit because of the differing memory model.

Seeking comments on latest Mac notebooks - (Ashton) - (37) - Oct. 1, 2014, 03:31:09 AM EDT

Nice, expensive, not got much graphical shove - (pwhysall) - (7) - Oct. 1, 2014, 07:44:28 AM EDT

What he said. Are you missing a "Do Not" in the last line? - (Another Scott) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2014, 08:07:39 AM EDT

No - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 1, 2014, 02:32:04 PM EDT

Weird. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2014, 03:58:20 PM EDT

Re: Weird. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 1, 2014, 04:28:40 PM EDT

I disagree about the keyboard. - (static) - (2) - Oct. 1, 2014, 10:05:42 PM EDT

Take your point, but... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2014, 12:50:46 AM EDT

Yes, the HHK is an outlier. - (static) - Oct. 2, 2014, 06:20:23 AM EDT

They were updated in July, more extensive changes in 2015. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 1, 2014, 08:03:31 AM EDT

Thanks all.. perzackly what I needed to know. - (Ashton) - Oct. 2, 2014, 04:25:32 PM EDT

PS: about desirable mem for two Apps: - (Ashton) - (24) - Oct. 2, 2014, 04:34:02 PM EDT

Max it. - (pwhysall) - (21) - Oct. 2, 2014, 05:24:45 PM EDT

I do appreciate that Winders Can handle (even such as you do.) - (Ashton) - (20) - Oct. 2, 2014, 08:40:43 PM EDT

windows sux - (boxley) - (10) - Oct. 2, 2014, 09:42:08 PM EDT

My dad recently got a Win7 machine after running XP for years... - (Another Scott) - (4) - Oct. 2, 2014, 10:32:18 PM EDT

recent? Win8 has been out for a while. - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 2, 2014, 10:49:26 PM EDT

Yup. Just a few months ago. They didn't want 8.x. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 2, 2014, 10:56:03 PM EDT

Wow - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2014, 11:01:11 PM EDT

Win7 is on "extended support" until January 2020. It'll be around a while. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 2, 2014, 11:27:35 PM EDT

+5, subtle. Yes, I catch your meaning.. - (Ashton) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2014, 10:47:18 PM EDT

apple controls what hardware goes into its boxen - (boxley) - Oct. 2, 2014, 10:58:30 PM EDT

It's not UNIX - (malraux) - (2) - Oct. 2, 2014, 10:59:46 PM EDT

yup, shoddy dev platform unless you are from other countries - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2014, 11:03:40 PM EDT

No kidding - (malraux) - Oct. 3, 2014, 12:24:20 PM EDT

Re: I do appreciate that Winders Can handle (even such as you do.) - (pwhysall) - (8) - Oct. 3, 2014, 01:16:06 AM EDT

+5, Insightful. - (static) - Oct. 3, 2014, 08:46:12 AM EDT

Thanks; second the Insightful (and dudgeon over Apple's now evident decline - (Ashton) - (6) - Oct. 4, 2014, 06:06:02 AM EDT

Actually - (pwhysall) - (5) - Oct. 4, 2014, 06:35:36 AM EDT

Heh. even moi can second the file manager options available - (Ashton) - (4) - Oct. 5, 2014, 05:54:44 PM EDT

I was a young sysadmin in the mid-late 90s - (pwhysall) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2014, 01:27:29 AM EDT

By way of contrast - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2014, 09:12:06 AM EDT

So you're the kind of user who can still make that happen -NT - (drook) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2014, 12:24:54 PM EDT

Wasn't even connected to the wifi - (pwhysall) - Oct. 6, 2014, 01:04:55 PM EDT

Would she be happier with a MacPro? - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2014, 06:18:41 PM EDT

Plan to send her here to mull, cogitate - (Ashton) - Oct. 2, 2014, 08:08:57 PM EDT

You might consider the refurbs - (Steve Lowe) - Oct. 3, 2014, 12:53:49 AM EDT

you might want to check the iworm -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 6, 2014, 09:48:21 AM EDT

I wanted to request installing a suggestion box at work, but I had no way of doing it.
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