gummint research - (boxley) - (5) - Sept. 6, 2014, 09:40:43 PM EDT
         He's a religious ideologue now. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 6, 2014, 11:49:08 PM EDT
             your second link does nor grok, 3rd link is not compelling -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 7, 2014, 02:58:05 AM EDT
                 The 3rd link is more understandable than the 2nd. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 7, 2014, 12:38:16 PM EDT
             first link goddidit , not a refutation goddiddnt do it -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 7, 2014, 03:00:21 AM EDT
         Excluded middle (again) - (drook) - Sept. 7, 2014, 08:15:24 AM EDT