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New So, retribution makes it alright. Perfect.
You also realize that the bulk of people going to Casinos can't really afford to spend that money there.

Awesome.

My opposition, regardless of what dumb shit thinks, is not due to them being brown people. My opposition is indeed, the same opposition as Bars, Banks, Stock Exchange and the Lottery.

The thing is, Banking is really the only current way to "do" the money thing... it needs to be fixed and we know how and why.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New So you're in charge of how people should spend their money?
And note that I said IF there was any fleecing going on then it was justified.
New Nope, never said that.
Taking advantage of weak minded people that won't think for themselves is where this is where it stinks.

Then there are those that think in ways upon which they do prey upon people's weak mind... and there we have X in a nutshell.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New What's wrong with fleecing Teabaggers?
The weak-minded are allowed to vote. They shouldn't be protected.
New The casino issue was the weakest on on that list, IMO, but ...
The issue isn't whether the weak minded should be protected. It's about casinos vs. other possible businesses. Which one generates more overall economic activity?
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Drew
New On the res? That's easy.
New Hmm ... this is awkward
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/destinations/travel/story/2012-02-09/Casino-gambling-revenue-shows-uptick-nationally/53029676/1
[American Gaming] Association figures don't include tribal casinos, which comprise about 40%, or $26 billion, of total U.S. casino revenue annually, estimates Eadington.

http://navajotimes.com/news/2012/0112/012612census.php
This means Natives are now a slightly larger minority, comprising 1.7 percent of the population versus 1.5 in 2000.

Casino gambling is not primarily an Indian issue. However, the impact on the community is disproportionate to say the least. It's like drug laws. Even though minorities consume less drugs in absolute numbers, the impact of legal action has fallen so disproportionately on minorities it's hard not to see intent.

Like I said, the gambling was the weakest issue on that list for me, but to the extent that I agreed with it I didn't see any racism in it. But it's not hard to believe that some of the powerful interests aligned against it are disguising the real reason for their opposition.
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Drew
New when the only legal casinos were in vegas and AC
could you gamble in cleveland?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New No, and that's why I didn't see this issue as having to do with Indians
There was opposition to allowing a casino here. It wasn't going to be on a res, so the arguments couldn't have had anything to do with Indians.

But ... If there are people with deep pockets who don't like Indians, and they're attacking casinos because of that, it would make sense that the organizations they fund would "exceed their mandate" so to speak and go after all casinos.
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Drew
New bzzt wrong, you could gamble in cleveland before casinos
slots cards horse races and the numbers. Stopping casinos does not stop gambling in any form http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2014/04/gambling_raid_puts_north_royal.html
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
New Ahhh now we see your real intent.
Have fun with that, troll.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New Not clear
In any time and place where you couldn't legally gamble, you could of course do so illegally.

What does that have to do with whether casino gambling should be legalized, or whether opposition to casino gambling is an indirect attack on Indians?
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Drew
New if you go back to the top of the thread
I questioned why casino gambling needed to be curtailed. Later I then pointed out that is the one way that tribes could leverage income. My last point to you was that gambling will happen casinos or no. So once again, back to the top, why should the government force casinos to close?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
     Kunstler can go overboard, but this list seems solid - (drook) - (36)
         casino gambling? -NT - (boxley) - (33)
             Absolutely. - (pwhysall) - (32)
                 dunno, in some cases it provides needed jobs on the res -NT - (boxley) - (31)
                     At the expense of others... - (folkert) - (30)
                         casinos cause cancer? news to me -NT - (boxley) - (29)
                             Quit being a troll. - (folkert) - (28)
                                 clue by four, the money is not coming from the res - (boxley) - (27)
                                     What indians are profiting from the Casino in Cleveland? -NT - (drook) - (1)
                                         What non indians are profiting from the Casino in Choctaw? -NT - (boxley)
                                     You are just wrong. - (folkert) - (24)
                                         you are trying to impose your morality on others -NT - (boxley) - (23)
                                             No. - (folkert) - (22)
                                                 I should not have replied to you - (boxley) - (21)
                                                     I don't associate casinos with reservations - (drook) - (17)
                                                         That's because you don't live around here. - (Andrew Grygus) - (16)
                                                             Used to see them every 10 minutes on Red Sox broadcasts... - (Another Scott)
                                                             You mean ... - (drook)
                                                             And in NC, it's Cherokee. And box is right on this. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                                 So, retribution makes it alright. Perfect. - (folkert) - (12)
                                                                     So you're in charge of how people should spend their money? - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                         Nope, never said that. - (folkert) - (10)
                                                                             What's wrong with fleecing Teabaggers? - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                                                 The casino issue was the weakest on on that list, IMO, but ... - (drook) - (8)
                                                                                     On the res? That's easy. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                         Hmm ... this is awkward - (drook) - (6)
                                                                                             when the only legal casinos were in vegas and AC - (boxley) - (5)
                                                                                                 No, and that's why I didn't see this issue as having to do with Indians - (drook) - (4)
                                                                                                     bzzt wrong, you could gamble in cleveland before casinos - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                                                         Ahhh now we see your real intent. - (folkert)
                                                                                                         Not clear - (drook) - (1)
                                                                                                             if you go back to the top of the thread - (boxley)
                                                     HAHA! -NT - (folkert)
                                                     Come back when you can. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                         Sorry wasn't clear just not posting to assclown -NT - (boxley)
         Will vote for anyone with that platform - (Ashton) - (1)
             As will I. - (mmoffitt)

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