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New <sigh>
We didn't ally, fund, or train bin Laden. http://en.wikipedia....n_Cyclone#Funding

Saddam wasn't an ally. http://en.wikipedia....n_to_the_conflict (Offering support to Iraq so that Iran didn't win, or as leverage for the Hostages, didn't make Saddam an ally.)

The UK had Hong Kong for nearly 100 years. The US has had Guantanamo for over 100 years. There is nothing in what happened in Kyiv that indicated that Sevastapol was in danger and every reasonable expectation that the lease with the Russians would continue to be honored through 2042 as the agreement states.

Putin (and Max Blumenthal) taking a handful of neo-Nazi kooks and puffing it up as being a threat to Russian residents or the Black Sea fleet sounds eerily reminiscent of the statements about the threat from the Polish cavalry in 1939...

Sure, be skeptical. But don't be ridiculous. You think Angela Merkel supports neo-Nazis?

Cheers,
Scott.
New You mean she isn't one?
New Back at you.
Saddam worked for the CIA ferchrissakes. He was on their payroll!

Then there's this:
http://media.photobu...videos&sort=1&o=5

A good synopsis on Saddam here: http://www.thirdworl...dden_History.html

Didn't help arm the Mujahadeen? You've got to be joking. Here's a visual for you: https://inquirer.wor...-qaedamujahideen/

Oh, let me guess. None of the arms-for-hostages supplies and none of the dual use technology ever made it to Osama, right?

Exactly how deep are those rose colored glasses you wear?


New Read my post, and the linkies, again please. :-)
New Wikipedia? That's your sole source? </me falls over>
I give you photographs and you give me wikipedia?

End.Of.Discussion.
New Wikipedia has cites. HTH.
     Who do these Russians in Crimea think they are? - (mmoffitt) - (50)
         Serious question:How was the Black Sea Fleet ever threatened -NT - (Another Scott) - (10)
             It wasn't. - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                 <sigh> - (Another Scott) - (5)
                     You mean she isn't one? -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     Back at you. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                         Read my post, and the linkies, again please. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                             Wikipedia? That's your sole source? </me falls over> - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                 Wikipedia has cites. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott)
                 Counterpoint. - (Another Scott)
                 You're buying into Yanukovych spin. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                     One thing I do know. - (mmoffitt)
         BS! They reneged on Ukraine's nuclear arms agreement. - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
             I understand that. - (mmoffitt)
             Plan B: - (pwhysall) - (2)
                 Putin seems to have realized that. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Money talks, Russkies walk - (pwhysall)
         Boundaries rejiggered - (rcareaga) - (15)
             Putin's take - (rcareaga) - (1)
                 I knew a 'relative' of the co-author - (Ashton)
             my take - (boxley) - (12)
                 The Red Army - (rcareaga)
                 "owns the euro fuel supply" - (pwhysall)
                 Agreed that one has to worry about uncontrolled escalation. - (Another Scott) - (9)
                     Re: escalation and Sochi. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                         One can always make arguments to justify one's actions. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                             I'm not saying the Russians are heroes. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                 Agreement. But that's not the topic, is it? :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                     Fine. We're picking nits now are we? :0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                         That's what we do, especially in this forum! :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Ukraine would resist all right - (boxley)
                     all sorts of sound reasons for behaving rationally - (rcareaga) - (1)
                         On that note, let us Here embark upon a similar - (Ashton)
         Putin the revanchist - (rcareaga) - (17)
             Even accepting all of that... - (Another Scott) - (16)
                 delving into a little history - (boxley) - (2)
                     Jeez, Box! - (Ashton) - (1)
                         I keep telling y'all... - (folkert)
                 Interesting times.. - (Ashton)
                 Imagine Canada - (rcareaga) - (11)
                     One could imagine that. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                         my scenario was deliberately lurid - (rcareaga) - (9)
                             On Canada... - (Another Scott)
                             If we suppose that Putin's take on our corrupt authoritarian - (Ashton) - (7)
                                 The likelihood of the Maritimes joining the US in the event - (jake123) - (6)
                                     Maritimes? not likely. I could see Alberta maybe - (boxley) - (2)
                                         Right now Alberta is in a class of its own` - (jake123) - (1)
                                             Very interesting. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                     Robertson Davies on Canada - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                         Excellent. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                         {{Chortle, long guffaw..}} -NT - (Ashton)

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