Re: Linus probably doesn't care much about Linux on PCs eith

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Post #385,137

by pwhysall

1/10/14 1:14:55 AM

Re: Linus probably doesn't care much about Linux on PCs eith

It's pure speculation that the motivation for Secure Boot was to protect Windows market share.

Given that the biggest threat to Windows is, well, (old versions of) Windows - i.e. inertia - and given that old versions of Windows don't really run too well, if at all, on modern PCs (finally, at last, thank fuck for that, driver support for XP is falling off a cliff) - protect it against what, precisely?

Apple since 2000 is a once-in-a-lifetime company. You cannot help but be impressed - but I'm not sure that in the wider context it's healthy for the industry (or the economy) for a company to be sitting on that much cash.

Post #385,139

by Another Scott

1/10/14 8:08:14 AM

Re: Linus probably doesn't care much about Linux on PCs eith

1) Agreed. I've got no special knowledge.

2) Dunno. MS (and Intel) could have used an open process for Secure Boot that Linux distros could have participated in as an equal (without paying huge fees or having a process that is prohibitively expensive - http://www.zdnet.com...-and-fedora/11187 ). It wouldn't have made it less secure (probably would have made it more secure). They didn't.

3) Agreed. Every company should be forbidden from having huge war chests like that. And their profits should be taxed sensibly. And management and director pay should be limited to some reasonable multiple of minimum/average employee pay. And... But those thing aren't going to happen with a Republican House.

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.

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Zooks! :-( -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 6, 2014, 07:41:19 PM EST

That tells me that Group security was patched-on. - (static) - (28) - Jan. 7, 2014, 09:10:02 PM EST

There never was a plan, but they're not the only ones... - (scoenye) - (27) - Jan. 8, 2014, 07:42:19 PM EST

Horrorshow. :-( Thanks for that last sentence! :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 8, 2014, 08:00:57 PM EST

I think Google has a love-hate relationship with corporates. - (static) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2014, 10:46:44 PM EST

I have 8 personal GMails and 1 work - (malraux) - Jan. 9, 2014, 10:07:49 AM EST

Yep - (pwhysall) - Jan. 9, 2014, 04:51:32 PM EST

Fascinating + Confusing.. that's fun--but only at parties. - (Ashton) - (22) - Jan. 8, 2014, 11:17:29 PM EST

Close - (drook) - (18) - Jan. 9, 2014, 10:57:51 AM EST

Shorter is better :-) -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 9, 2014, 11:04:17 AM EST

Not just MS. - (Another Scott) - (11) - Jan. 9, 2014, 11:17:48 AM EST

ARM the CPU architecture? - (drook) - (4) - Jan. 9, 2014, 11:30:17 AM EST

It's where all the growth is, and no MS tax. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 9, 2014, 12:01:52 PM EST

Neat, hadn't heard about that - (drook) - Jan. 9, 2014, 12:17:37 PM EST

Re: ARM the CPU architecture? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 9, 2014, 04:52:58 PM EST

Seems like MS doesn't care even if you do. - (crazy) - Jan. 16, 2014, 09:32:36 AM EST

I think your argument is from ten years ago. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Jan. 9, 2014, 04:54:48 PM EST

..__--oo000oo--__.. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Jan. 9, 2014, 06:14:18 PM EST

MS really, really don't care about Linux on PCs - (pwhysall) - (3) - Jan. 9, 2014, 06:29:41 PM EST

Linus probably doesn't care much about Linux on PCs either. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Jan. 9, 2014, 07:20:17 PM EST

Re: Linus probably doesn't care much about Linux on PCs eith - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2014, 01:14:55 AM EST

Re: Linus probably doesn't care much about Linux on PCs eith - (Another Scott) - Jan. 10, 2014, 08:08:14 AM EST

Ah I C: takes lots fewer words when you already know several - (Ashton) - (4) - Jan. 9, 2014, 08:42:27 PM EST

No special insight here - (drook) - (3) - Jan. 10, 2014, 08:35:21 AM EST

That's a useful start, but.. - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2014, 08:44:06 PM EST

Oh, I don't *believe* what they say - (drook) - Jan. 10, 2014, 09:53:29 PM EST

Great description of what I (try to) do - (drook) - Jan. 15, 2014, 07:38:22 PM EST

Re: Fascinating + Confusing.. that's fun--but only at partie - (scoenye) - (2) - Jan. 9, 2014, 06:32:28 PM EST

Rofl. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 9, 2014, 07:07:18 PM EST

Hey! that's a Good error message.. - (Ashton) - Jan. 9, 2014, 09:14:04 PM EST

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