One for MM: Jesse Myerson - 5 economic ideas to fight for.

Post #384,955 by Another Scott 1/4/14 10:06:13 PM Reply	One for MM: Jesse Myerson - 5 economic ideas to fight for. http://www.rollingst...ting-for-20140103 By Jesse A. Myerson January 3, 2014 10:00 AM ET It's a new year, but one thing hasn't changed: The economy still blows. Five years after Wall Street crashed, America's banker-gamblers have only gotten richer, while huge swaths of the country are still drowning in personal debt, tens of millions of Americans remain unemployed Â and the new jobs being created are largely low-wage, sub-contracted, part-time grunt work. Millennials have been especially hard-hit by the downturn, which is probably why so many people in this generation (like myself) regard capitalism with a level of suspicion that would have been unthinkable a decade ago. But that egalitarian impulse isn't often accompanied by concrete proposals about how to get out of this catastrophe. Here are a few things we might want to start fighting for, pronto, if we want to grow old in a just, fair society, rather than the economic hellhole our parents have handed us. [...] Excellent. (via Katheleen Geier at WashingtonMonthly) Cheers, Scott.
Post #384,960 by Ashton 1/5/14 12:57:44 AM Reply	Yes.. it is. And if not even one of those ideas is worth 'fighting-for'--by the always tiny minority who will put-up-a Fight? Then no 'fight' is left in that person. It took a Fight to get the Vietnam travesty ended.. even then, Nixon managed to surreptitiously launch even more outrages while leisurely winding-down. Getting done all the things on that list would be tantamount to the first authentic Reform on such a scale since umm, the Bill of Rights? Hope there are enough bright, effectively-angry and tenacious millennials tough enough for a job likely to take them well into middle-age. They'll have to kick a lot of reprobate mofo asses to prevail, but maybe it can be done with minimal bloodshed if gradual improvement proves (soon enough) that We don't Have-to live like this, vote via Gerrymander or eschew taxation of the perps who stole everyone's gross National 'product' for selves. Sic 'em! Dudes and Dudesses. Hey, it's 1964 all-over-again, Question Authority!--the questions weren't nearly harsh enough, first time around.
Post #384,992 by boxley 1/6/14 9:16:58 AM Reply	where we pretend to work and the state pretends to pay us sorry, I already pay a land value tax Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #384,998 by mmoffitt 1/6/14 11:16:48 AM Reply	Thanks. But I've seen all that. (1) Article 40 (2) Article 43 (3) and (4) Articles 44, 10 and 11 (5) Article 131 http://www.constitut...g/cons/ussr77.txt And I've seen how Western Capitalists react when anyone tries to implement such a system. I'm not saying this cannot be done (indeed, Engels himself suggested Communists should look to the United States to see how well self-government can work), but I am saying that these reforms cannot be implemented without a lot of gunfire. Shortly after McVeigh was arrested, I met a man from the UP who had grown up around the so-called militia men with whom McVeigh had become involved. He said he didn't believe McVeigh was guilty and "neither does anyone I know up there." The popular theory up there, he told me, was that the government itself had committed this crime in order to ram the assault rifle ban through the Congress. We had a lenghty chat and I told him that his hostility was misplaced and so, too, was McVeigh's if we entertained the idea that he was actually responsible for the bombing. I explained that the federal workers who were attacked were merely useful idiots of the ruling corporate elite and that there would always be replacements. If men of McVeigh's persuasion were actually interested in effecting real change, they'd be better served attacking not federal buildings and federal workers, but corporate board rooms. Blow up a building in which a Chase, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, Standard Oil, Exxon-Mobil or any of about 200 multi-national corporation's shareholder meetings were being held. That, I said, was the path to meaningful change. Apparently, they didn't listen. Either that (or as I suspect) federal protection of shareholder meetings is vastly superior to the protection provided poor working stiffs like those in Oklahoma.
Post #385,016 by Ashton 1/6/14 10:07:28 PM Reply	Quite Principled.. in theory. Pity that so few of these were realized within that (never-really-Proletariat-) Dictatorship while (never close-to achieving real Socialism, never mind Communism) despite incessant pretense to the contrary. Given: the idiosyncratic nature of Red Plenty and the selection of individuals whom the author deemed relevant to a partial glimpse of the zeitgest at key events --and given the fact that this was in no way meant to be either a documentary nor The Compleat History from Tsar through Stalin (and the subsequent walking cadavers) ... ... What were your conclusions (re 'issues' that bothered you Then) ? ..about Mr. Spufford's kaleidoscopic buffet (and his italicized Intros all interspersed.) Quite different means of communication which, we saw: requires in-brain synthesis ever to derive any Aha!s Any glaring errors/mischaracterizations as irked? Also wonder if you've seen Europe Central with--among many other things--its illustration of being 'famous' yet Watched the more intensely.. that-all interspersed with the Operatic-grade inner-music/love/poitical-life of Dmitri Dmitriyevich Shostakovich as leitmotif, a Stalin summing-up and much more re WW-!! protagonists. (That is a Tome, but I'm glad I persevered--some priceless passages. And we are left free to draw whatever Conclusions--no pre-digested ones.) BOTH! these books will flummox the easily distracted, those wanting instant entertainment (or just attention-span deprived) yet I found these (with only a few breaks) engrossing as any novel. And USSR is a magnum-focus of both. ('Course, even with these viewpoints--I know that I don't know shit about N+100 other aspects to that lengthy fucking-over of millions) --maybe too much time spent cataloguing the Home-disaster-Front: same kind of Pure-shit, dumbed-down/obfuscated similarly. But.. the US IS Exceptional! ..in the huge variety of Stinks of that grade-of-shit emanated here, in the land of diversity.

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