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New petty humiliation
Ever since Flatline, Comatose, Torpor & Drowse signed the devil's pact that produced BrainDead Systems, and ever since BDS jumped into bed with the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit (pardon me, the Department of Homeland Security), we've been subject to a number of onerous and oppressive federal requirements. This morning, after 36 years with this chickenshit outfit, I was required to pee into a plastic cup. I'd rather thought it wouldn't happen—test the art director? Why on earth for?—but it did, and instead of standing up for our ancient liberties, I was a docile German instead, since with the collapse of the frau's law practice I'm the only reliable income source the household has. But the whole thing left a nasty, one might say piss-flavored, taste in the mouth.
New :-(
My former boss had to do that once. He got a phone call (roughly): "Report here, NOW. Do it NOW or you will be FIRED. Do not go anywhere else, come straight here NOW."

Not a good way to treat people of any stripe. :-(

I feel for you. Hang in there.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Next time ...
"Oops, sorry. I guess my aim was a little off. I hope you're wearing gloves."
--

Drew
New I bet "bashful kidney" excuse wouldn't work either.
Yes, it should be bladder not kidney, but that's the name often used.

Piss poor situation! :)
Alex
New Land of the free, home of the brave
Dunno what to say.
New Land of the peed-upon, home of the craven
...is more like it, I'm afraid.
New 'Ancient liberties'- Ah, those: did they miss nullifying one
since 9/11?

Can the Airport Piss-line be far behind? (See? they Did miss one. So far.)
Some solace though:
If Cheney's Clearance is still valid ... goose/gander. But I'd need to see the video.
New couldnt you whipout a medical mj card? how would that work?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
New But, they're looking for other stuff too.
Alex
New Might be no protection.
http://www.lexology....969b-913a4f28a468

Federal court says termination of employee for using medical marijuana is not discriminatory

Jackson Lewis PC
Kathryn Barry
USA
August 28 2013
Jackson Lewis PC logo
A federal court in Denver has held that an employee who was fired after testing positive for marijuana was not protected by the state’s anti-discrimination laws, even though Colorado has legalized the use of medical marijuana. (Curry v. MillerCoors, Inc., 12-cv-02471 (JLK) (D. Colo. 2013)).

MillerCoors terminated Paul Curry after he tested positive for marijuana use during a routine drug test administered by the company. Curry, who suffers from hepatitis C and osteoarthritis, is licensed by the State of Colorado to use medical marijuana pursuant to Colorado’s Medical Marijuana Amendment, colloquially known as “Amendment 20”.

Following his termination, Curry filed a complaint in United States District Court accusing the Chicago-based brewer of discriminating against him on the basis of his disability. According to Curry, he was terminated “because of the treatment [medical marijuana] that [he] was using to manage the symptoms of his disabling medical conditions.” Curry also claimed he was discriminated against for engaging in lawful activity and that MillerCoors’s drug testing policy invaded his right to privacy.

According to District Judge John Kane, however, MillerCoors was simply enforcing its long-established drug-free workplace policy. Regardless of Mr. Curry’s medical condition, the Court held, “[Colorado’s] anti-discrimination law does not extend so far as to shield a disabled employee from the implementation of his employer’s standard policies against employee misconduct.”

[...]


Until the feds change the laws, MJ is still very iffy.

Cheers,
Scott.
New WTELF?!?!
WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK?
[Colorado’s] anti-discrimination law does not extend so far as to shield a disabled employee from the implementation of his employer’s standard policies against employee misconduct.

Isn't that pretty much exactly the point of anti-discrimination laws?
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Drew
New Re: couldnt you whipout a medical mj card?
Couple of points:

1. As Alex points out, the test covers a whole raft of forbidden compounds: THC, opiates, cocaine and derivatives, methamphetamines, PCP, MDMA ("Ecstasy"), and bog knows what else*, so even if a medical card was a "Get out of jail free" card for the first one (it certainly isn't), they'd justify it on the basis of the others.

2. I don't have such a card, nor do I suffer from any conditions that might realistically justify one being issued to me. Of course, this is true of a number of people I know who are currently being prescribed magic cookies.

3. Given what we have learned about the levels of surveillance to which we are subject domestically, and the overall trend toward much more of the same in the years to come, it seems not unrealistic to imagine that should I be granted such an instrument, the day is not far off when some unhappy confluence of interlocking databases spits out my name in this connection together with BDS, and thence to DHS, which is a strong believer in its affiliates public and private maintaining a "drug-free workplace."

4. As it happens, the only thing the piss workout is likely to yield would be aspirin and statins. I've long found cannabis to be hard on the windpipe and personally impractical as a social lubricant, so although most of my friends between the ages of fifty and seventy still indulge on occasion, it is my custom not to join them. The knowledge that this virtuous abstinence is now, so to say, enforced rankles quite a bit.

*5. As to "who knows what else," it's amusing to consider that I could have done a dose of LSD the night before, and still awaited the test results with a placid disposition, since the effective dosages are measured in millionths of a gram, and these are largely metabolized during the fraction of an hour before the onset of effects. Apparently trace amounts remain in the liver for a few hours, but it would require an actual biopsy to access the affected tissue, and the day that becomes a condition of employment will be the day I head to HR and turn in my building pass. I hope. Anyway, who knows where to find ergot-derived hallucinogenics anymore?

micturationally,
New As to your closing question ...
The best bet from our membership to answer that question is currently providing the answer -- most likely repeatedly, and under quite a bit of duress -- to humorless functionaries of the state.
--

Drew
New decided a long time ago
in Alaska you pee to get paid or work for day labor wages, bit the bullet and quit myself
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
     petty humiliation - (rcareaga) - (13)
         :-( - (Another Scott)
         Next time ... - (drook)
         I bet "bashful kidney" excuse wouldn't work either. - (a6l6e6x)
         Land of the free, home of the brave - (jake123) - (1)
             Land of the peed-upon, home of the craven - (rcareaga)
         'Ancient liberties'- Ah, those: did they miss nullifying one - (Ashton)
         couldnt you whipout a medical mj card? how would that work? -NT - (boxley) - (6)
             But, they're looking for other stuff too. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             Might be no protection. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 WTELF?!?! - (drook)
             Re: couldnt you whipout a medical mj card? - (rcareaga) - (2)
                 As to your closing question ... - (drook)
                 decided a long time ago - (boxley)

Do we really have to hide from da cops in da oven, Muggsy?
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