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These are the 5MP downsampled files, but straight off the camera; no autofix, no noise reduction, no nuffink. The aperture is fixed at f/2.2.

Hawthorn berries, 1/50th:
http://sdrv.ms/1fU2tDY

A close-up flash shot, 1/30th:
http://sdrv.ms/1aCMqqn

A flash portrait, 1/35th:
http://sdrv.ms/18hhxaN

New 322 kB jpeg.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but the blown-up berry picture is 1277 x 718 and a 322 kB jpeg.

Oh, one has to explicitly request (via RB click - view original). Wait. That's still only 1277 x 718 and 322 kB.

Where are the rest of the pixels? Did Microsoft's Sky Drive eated them without telling you?

Thanks.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Heh
You people, always with the pixels!

Personally, I think the low-res images that my phone uploaded in "economy" mode that I totally deliberately turned on and you can't prove otherwise amply illustrate the dynamic range, pleasing depth of field and low-noise characteristics of the large sensor.

But if it's pixels you want, I gottem!

Camera, 5MP:
http://sdrv.ms/1680xUQ

Camera, 34MP:
http://sdrv.ms/1fBP8CP

Niece, 5MP:
http://sdrv.ms/1680N6k

Niece, 34MP:
http://sdrv.ms/16CIgRY

Hawthorn, 5MP:
http://sdrv.ms/16CIhVX

Hawthorn, 34MP:
http://sdrv.ms/1fBPv00

BTW, I'm sharing these from my SkyDrive, not my Flickr, because I don't want to put a load of test shots in my Flickr. Not least because I use John's Background Switcher to set my desktop background using my Flickr feed.

It's the dog's bollocks, it's free, and it's here:
http://johnsadventur...ckgroundswitcher/
Expand Edited by pwhysall Sept. 30, 2013, 01:26:25 AM EDT
New Thanks.
I've only looked at the camera photo so far. It seems a little noisy around the highlight on the finger shelf where the shutter button is, but the overall sharpness is very very good.

Very impressive for a camera phone.

Is the 4+ seconds between shots annoying? Have you accidentally messed with the picture (e.g. by "zooming") and lost the "original" - http://allaboutwindo...Think_about_N.php ? Is 2.7x zoom enough?

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: Thanks.
Shot-to-shot is about 3 seconds on mine, not 4. I've got Microsoft Blink for if I need faster.

You don't need optical zoom on a camera phone, although the ability to crop-zoom is handy, for those rare occasions where Nike Zoom isn't available. The glass is far, far too small to make it worthwhile, so you're much better off using Nike Zoom instead, and taking advantage of the downsampling magic.

TBH, you're often better off using Nike Zoom on a proper camera; stick the lens in its optimum sharpness/aberration position, walk to where you need to be. I only rarely shoot my 10-22mm at anything other than 10mm, stopped down to about f/11. I fit everything else (composition, shutter speed, aperture, etc) around that. Likewise, the 24-105 tends to live at just shy of 105mm, where I use it like a moderately long prime.

ETA: Interesting article, thanks. The fact that the 5MP oversampled image is derived directly from the 41MP (34/38 depending on aspect ratio. Look, it's complicated. Shut up.) sensor data is news to me, but makes perfect sense.
Expand Edited by pwhysall Sept. 30, 2013, 07:24:02 AM EDT
New More extensive blathering about the camera on G+
https://plus.google....posts/JiC7knTn2aR
     Lumia 1020 ordered. - (pwhysall) - (27)
         Who cares about 41 MP? - (folkert) - (1)
             I do. - (pwhysall)
         Re: Lumia 1020 ordered. - (Bman) - (17)
             Re: Lumia 1020 ordered. - (pwhysall) - (16)
                 But you're can't join the collective that way! -NT - (Another Scott)
                 I has it. - (pwhysall) - (14)
                     we have an unlimited data plan as well - (boxley) - (13)
                         OK, I'm confused - (hnick) - (1)
                             Neither - (drook)
                         Interesting. - (pwhysall) - (10)
                             yes it counts, yes it sucks glad phones are tax deductable -NT - (boxley)
                             Ya think it's bad for them - (jake123) - (8)
                                 Nice... - (folkert) - (7)
                                     Wait, what? - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                         Yep, I used to ... - (folkert)
                                         Not any more, but ... - (drook)
                                         There are people who do here - (jake123) - (2)
                                             Refresh my memory - (drook) - (1)
                                                 No - (jake123)
                                         It's what happened because the US was late to GSM. :-) - (static)
         They've got great TV commercials here - (lincoln)
         Quick example or two - (pwhysall) - (5)
             322 kB jpeg. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 Heh - (pwhysall) - (2)
                     Thanks. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Re: Thanks. - (pwhysall)
             More extensive blathering about the camera on G+ - (pwhysall)

It's a Berkeley DB file - neat! I love retro.
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