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New SteamOS
http://store.steampo...vingroom/SteamOS/

Yet another Linux variant with the hook that it's optimized for Valve's games. Sounds interesting, but one wonders how they will get the "content creators" signed up to make it a compelling choice for the TV.

A box to run it is also coming in a few days, apparently.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Uninteresting
Valve are shitting bricks about the Windows 8 App Store because it's a direct competitor to their app store, Steam. I doubt they hold the Mac App Store in particularly warm regard, either.

This has nothing to do with Free or Open or anything like that; it's about ensuring that Valve's business model is protected, by having people play games without the temptation of the Windows (or Mac) App Stores, and rather having people send their pounds sterling (other units of exchange are available) to Valve, instead.

The problem for Valve is that there are very few games that run on Linux, and when it comes to AAA titles (think Call of Duty, etc; the titles that sell by the million) that number drops to pretty much zero. The workaround seems to be that you stream your games-that-don't-run-on-Linux (i.e. most if not all of them) from your actual Windows PC to your SteamOS box.

At which point I would suggest the vast majority of people are going to go "eh, fuckit. I'll buy an HTPC or an Xbox or a PlayStation."

The comment sections of websites reporting this are alight with starry-eyed gamers who are convinced that this heralds the coming of Half-Life 3, but the harsh reality is that - unless the best industry cover-up of all time is in effect - this game is not in development. There are no current AAA titles for Valve to bring to SteamOS.
New Re: Uninteresting
you say that now but steamos has a feature to use a windows pc to host the video games on via the steam client and then steamos can play the games over the local network or the internet to the steamos box.

which means steamos players can play windows games in the steam cloud using their windows pcs to store the games on. which also means that all 2500+ steam windows games can be played on steamos this way. how many games does that windows 8 store have again?

linux may lack games, true, but using dosbox they can play old dos games and using qemu they can play some classic windows games with an old windows image like windows 95 or 98; however, with wine they can play quite a few windows games like civilization v, etc.

if you saw the steam controller you would know it makes all other controllers look like shite and then you realise that when half life 3 comes out only for linux that valve has the lock-in.
New My Windows 8 PC...
...can play all the games in the Steam store, all the games in Origin, AND all the games in the Windows 8 store.

SteamOS players still need a Windows PC to play the vast majority of games.

So why bother with SteamOS? Cut to the chase and plug your PC into your telly, or get an XBox or PS4.

DOSBox and WINE aren't a selling point; if you're buying something like a SteamBox, that shit needs to work out of the box and without the customer even knowing it's there.

Newell has seen what's coming down the pipe, and it's basically his proprietary, DRMed-to-the-nines, walled-garden being rendered obsolete. He's using Linux because it's cheap, not because it's "open". If you want to find out how "open" Valve is, ask 'em for the Steam source code.

(The controller does not "make all other controllers look like shite", and Half Life 3, if it even exists, which I don't think it does, will come out on Windows first, I'd bet a pint on that. Gabe likes to blather on about linux, but he likes money more.)
Expand Edited by pwhysall Nov. 6, 2013, 03:56:51 AM EST
New Reading comprehension much?
The new gamer kid fan-boy wibbles:
you say that now but steamos has a feature to use a windows pc to host the video games on via the steam client and then steamos can play the games over the local network or the internet to the steamos box.
Listen up, new gamer kid fan-boy -- Peter had already, in the very post you were replying to, demolished that little fantasy:
The workaround seems to be that you stream your games-that-don't-run-on-Linux (i.e. most if not all of them) from your actual Windows PC to your SteamOS box.

At which point I would suggest the vast majority of people are going to go "eh, fuckit...
So please try to read before writing, eh? That way you won't look like a fool by asking something that's already been answered, making an argument that's already been debunked, etc. HTH!
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                 My Windows 8 PC... - (pwhysall)
                 Reading comprehension much? - (CRConrad)

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