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Post #380,260 by static 9/5/13 1:04:25 AM Reply	There's a way. They turn the problem over to the XBox boys and girls. MS has never owned the gaming space - but they are a presence now and the people who ran the XBox division at the start made it happen. However, this solution does require that all the other moving parts (OS, Office, hardware...) would have to kowtow to the ex-XBox people for it to work. Otherwise it won't. Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #380,271 by boxley 9/5/13 8:38:41 AM Reply	thats the plan I did mention that OS and applications should have a chinese wall between them and why but thats not gonna happen Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #380,282 by Another Scott 9/5/13 10:20:40 AM Reply	Lots of people are claiming they'll never buy an XBone Dunno. I'm not a gamer myself, but they seem to have pissed a lot of people off with the always-connected, Kinect-spying noises (even if they've backtracked on them). Dunno. Here's hoping the PS4 is a hit for Sony. They need something strong to survive a little longer. Cheers, Scott.
Post #380,285 by folkert 9/5/13 10:47:06 AM Reply	Oh the PS4 will be a great hit... If not immediately. The Playstation has always had lackluster roll out sales. Mainly because Sony makes it a biatch to program for until people learn it. The techniques they learn make the PS2 live as long as it did, were also applied to the original XBOX. The PS4 will probably out sell anything XBOX for a long time again. What is that you say: Nintendo? I dunno the the Wii-U seems to be a flop. -- greg@gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C "No snowflake in an avalanche eve feels responsible." --Fortune Cookie
Post #380,308 by static 9/5/13 11:14:46 PM Reply	Sony have in some ways succeeded despite themselves. With the original Playstation, Sony was up against a Sega who was imploding and a Nintendo who were hard to work with. It wasn't a lay-down misère, but it might've been. SCEI was in many ways the opposite of Nintento and developers loved it. The PS2 was up against the newcomer Microsoft. Sony nearly stumbled a few times because Sony Corporate, having let SCEI create this big success with the PSX, could not resist putting their fingers in the mix this time. I suspect knowing that MS were copying with the Xbox what Sony did with the PSX probably saved them as they knew the playbook. The PS3 and the Xbox 360 were simply More Of The Same. With Nintendo going out of step and then trying to change the rules with their innovative controller, MS and Sony had a partial duopoly. They might've both been in a lot more trouble if Nintento had released the Wii at roughy the same time as the PS3 and Xbox 360. They would've definitely been in trouble if Nintendo had gone for HD and the next-gen graphics instead of just a mild upgrade. The PS4 and the XBone are mostly a great big upgrade from their predecessors. I've seen game footage of the PS4 and the graphics engine is quite a lot better than the PS3 and the PS3 is pretty good. Plus MS stumbled badly with the "always on" thing and the Kinect. Sony knew better. That will help their reputation quite a lot. Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #380,309 by Another Scott 9/5/13 11:37:17 PM Reply	I understood that the PS3 almost killed Sony. They thought that the blue lasers were going to be easier to perfect than they ended up being, so yields were low and costs were high in their BluRay players that were one of the big selling-points of the box. ("Buy this inexpensive game machine and get a free Blu-Ray player!") The Cell processors were a big risk for them, too. I think it's great that Sony was willing to push the technology and take risks like that. The hardware behind PS4 and XBone seems to be much more conventional (even if the graphics performance, etc., is much higher than the predecessors). It'll be interesting to see if they're as popular as the earlier boxes. I'm tempted to look into one mainly for the mediaplayer aspects (we haven't even downloaded any TV shows yet even though we've got Amazon Prime). We're paying over $200 a month for cable TV and internet and it's tempting to find ways to cut that expense down some... Or maybe a Chromecast dongle, or ... But I'm often on the trailing edge of technology now - the hep cats probably do everything on their phones now, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were canceled 3 months after we bought one. ;-) Thanks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #380,310 by static 9/6/13 1:07:35 AM Reply	Oh yes. I was going to mention that. The PS2 was timed nearly perfectly for DVD, but the PS3 was about a year early technologically speaking. They took a bit of a bath and it was a huge gamble, but they've come out of it doing not too bad. I think Sony Corporate learnt to let SCEI just do what they're good at. Sony and MS have been pretty pro-active in making their gaming network work. I think it helps that download only games have started appearing that are good enough to win significant awards (Journey comes to mind). I use a PS3 for DVD and BluRay playing as well as the games, but I have a MythTV for DVB, catch-up TV (iView usually) and Youtube. Sony did make a DVR add-on for the PS3 but it seems to have vanished from the market. Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #380,287 by pwhysall 9/5/13 10:54:02 AM 9/5/13 10:55:00 AM Reply	Lots of those people are lying... ...because they'll want the next Halo game. Or Forza 5, which will be better than GT6 - much like Forza 4 ended up being much better than GT5. Mainly because Turn 10 remembered that racing games are supposed to be games and therefore should have some element of fun. I may get one, but it will depend on whether the media features are a sufficiently large jump from those on the 360. I don't play many games on my 360, although Netflix and the XBox Music stuff get a lot of action. Edited by pwhysall Sept. 5, 2013, 10:55:00 AM EDT Expand All History

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