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New Korea: easy to forget
I swear, I was about fifteen—that would be 1967—before I pieced together the odd fragmentary reference here and there and first began to realize that another Bad Thing (apart from Vietnam, awareness of which by this time was quite impossible to avoid) had gone down on the far side of the Pacific Ocean. You would have looked in vain for any reference to the conflict in any of the high school history textbooks I saw during that period, and while I overheard (as background noise) plenty of adult males reminiscing about "the war" during the latter fifties/early sixties, there was nothing to explicitly differentiate the "police action" from the struggle against "the Japs."

I grant that my infant sensibilities were un-nuanced, and that prior to age fifteen I had neither the inclination nor the attention to spare (distractions of personal circumstances: poverty and domestic turbulence) for the broader outside world. Obviously the Korean conflict wasn't a secret, but it was something no one seemed to want to talk about. This might seem odd to someone ten or more years younger than me, since in the seventies a popular television series was set in this milieu, and awareness of the late "police action" presumably entered mass culture as a commonplace.

Just my .02 won.

kordially,
New Yes, twas only a UN police action, they say.
36,576 US dead.

I was 10, a newly minted immigrant when the war started, and given my background very aware Soviet ambitions. It was table conversation at home. I still remember the dark days of the Pusan Perimeter.

Taught the Russkies not to skip UN Security Council meetings.
Alex
New My vague recollections from those times...
I may be misremembering, but my recollections of the late 1960s - 1972 or so was a bit different. Growing up outside of Atlanta, the bits of politics I picked up were strongly anti-communist. There would be off-hand rants about Truman not "winning" in Korea and tying the military's hands so they couldn't win. And similarly in Vietnam.

We did duck-and-cover drills occasionally at school (being close to a big Lockheed plant, there was an expectation that we would be hit fairly soon when the USSR inevitably attacked). We watched the national news every evening, hearing the never-ending story about the quagmire in South Vietnam. And then there was the '72 mid-East war that was another instance where the nukes were rattled on several sides without us knowing about it.

All of this was rolled together into a story that someone was keeping us from winning and imposing our self-evidently right views on how the world should be run with the USA in the vanguard. There was little if any nuance. The dirty hippies yelling about Nixon's and Kissinger's crimes were sore losers or misguided idealists who didn't understand how the world works or just a couple of steps away from joining the Manson Family or the Red Brigades (or later the SLA) and killing us all in our beds.

Lots of people wanted to forget Korea because it didn't fit with the narrative of the US single-handedly saving the world as in WWII (while conveniently ignoring the Red Army's role). It also (objectively) showed that internationalism led by the UN could actually impose a peace, and those who hate the UN couldn't have that... It was easier to forget it, or to make it a minor player in a larger story about the leftists destroying America. Or something.

If any specific bits of Korean war history were mentioned, it was invariably MacArthur's landing at Inchon. As if that showed that he was a genius in all aspects of the war and would have "won" if Truman hadn't fired him... Others have a more nuanced view - http://en.wikipedia..../Battle_of_Inchon

American forces achieved a strategic masterpiece in the Incheon landing in September 1950 and then largely negated it by a slow, tentative, 11-day advance on Seoul, only twenty miles away. By contrast in the Baltic region in 1941 the German forces achieved strategic surprise in the first day of their offensive and then, exhibiting a breakthrough mentality, pushed forward rapidly, seizing key positions and advancing almost two hundred miles in four days. The American advance was characterized by cautious, restrictive orders, concerns about phase lines, limited reconnaissance, and command posts well in the rear, while the Germans positioned their leaders as far forward as possible, relied on oral or short written orders, reorganized combat groups to meet immediate circumstances, and engaged in vigorous reconnaissance.


In my case, before I was a teenager, there was the consistent nagging feeling that the situation wasn't good. Why couldn't we "win" these wars any more? How long will we keep fighting? What's the point of perpetual stalemate? Why do we support so many dictators around the world? Will I be drafted? And on and on.

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: the narrative of the US single-handedly saving the world
Also, the Korean war was not really won. There was an armistice with nearly the old border as the DMZ (demilitarized zone, ha!) in place. No signed peace treaty to this day.
Alex
New Indeed. As the Kims remind us every 2-3 years... :-/
     So I guess even poodles bite their owners sometimes. - (mmoffitt) - (14)
         saudi's are willing -NT - (boxley)
         Why shouldn't we go... - (folkert) - (11)
             I'm not saying we shouldn't. - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                 bring back the draft, get rid of excess employables -NT - (boxley)
                 You forgetting Korea perhaps? :-p - (Another Scott) - (8)
                     'MacArthur wanted to make it an even bigger deal... ' - (Ashton)
                     Hardly. My dad was a Korean War Vet. - (mmoffitt)
                     Korea: easy to forget - (rcareaga) - (4)
                         Yes, twas only a UN police action, they say. - (a6l6e6x)
                         My vague recollections from those times... - (Another Scott) - (2)
                             Re: the narrative of the US single-handedly saving the world - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                 Indeed. As the Kims remind us every 2-3 years... :-/ -NT - (Another Scott)
                     knew folks who were over there edit added link - (boxley)
         It was inevitable - (pwhysall)

I say, I say now Reason! Won't you put your blue jeans on?
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