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Post #37,637
by tseliot
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5/6/02 12:42:07 PM
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New Sorry, I misunderstood.
What I find is that managers keep wanting weblications to resemble VB-like GUI apps....

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Just don't use bound countrols in C/S tools and filter large search lists/grids at the server stage, not on the client, and you shouldn't have that many bandwidth problems.


I continue to be under the assumption that bound controls and filtering on the client are the essence of VB-like GUI apps. If this isn't the case for you, then what do "VB-like GUI apps" entail that's different from web apps? Comboboxes?
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Post #37,865
by tablizer
5/7/02 8:22:27 PM
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New The pudding is not even in alpha
I continue to be under the assumption that bound controls and filtering on the client are the essence of VB-like GUI apps. If this isn't the case for you, then what do "VB-like GUI apps" entail that's different from web apps? Comboboxes?


You can change just about anything anywhere on any screen at any time (within the app).

If web apps are (or can be) so similar to C/S GUI apps, then how come there are no VB/Delphi/PB-like IDE's for developing them? (The closest thing I know of is the Oracle Forms using it's Java-applet-based "GUI Browser". But Oracle Forms stinks to high heck. It has a certain "personality" that you have to negotiate with. It does not easily allow "changing anything anywhere on any screen at any time" and forces outdated Windows-3x-like conventions on you. If their GUI Browser was only an open standard or OSS, then it might go further.)
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     Flashback - (drewk) - (32) - April 18, 2002, 03:13:26 PM EDT
         DOM is a lost cause - (tablizer) - (31) - April 24, 2002, 01:56:44 PM EDT
             I disagree. - (static) - (2) - April 26, 2002, 08:20:16 AM EDT
                 consistent bugs - (tablizer) - (1) - April 26, 2002, 10:42:39 PM EDT
                     Haven't tried IE6. - (static) - April 27, 2002, 04:41:57 AM EDT
             Perhaps you should read this: - (pwhysall) - (27) - April 28, 2002, 11:29:44 AM EDT
                 event driven - (tablizer) - (26) - May 1, 2002, 02:03:28 PM EDT
                     Quoting - (ChrisR) - (6) - May 1, 2002, 02:48:49 PM EDT
                         WYSIWYG - (tablizer) - (5) - May 3, 2002, 12:25:26 AM EDT
                             Use blockquote. - (pwhysall) - (4) - May 3, 2002, 12:44:36 AM EDT
                                 still not WYSIWYG - (tablizer) - (3) - May 3, 2002, 01:02:41 PM EDT
                                     Get over yourself - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 02:15:47 AM EDT
                                         whatever - (tablizer) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 11:39:41 PM EDT
                                             Mistyped HTML... - (admin) - May 5, 2002, 09:50:33 PM EDT
                     GUIs over HTTP. - (pwhysall) - (8) - May 1, 2002, 03:31:32 PM EDT
                         Java applets == fat client (-nt) - (tablizer) - (7) - May 2, 2002, 12:30:12 PM EDT
                             Er, no. - (pwhysall) - (6) - May 3, 2002, 12:10:45 AM EDT
                                 Obese - (tablizer) - (5) - May 3, 2002, 12:22:36 AM EDT
                                     Still wrong. - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 3, 2002, 12:41:11 AM EDT
                                         You are missing the point. - (tablizer) - May 3, 2002, 01:13:38 PM EDT
                                     I've got a better example. - (static) - (2) - May 12, 2002, 08:39:37 AM EDT
                                         Exception to the rule - (tablizer) - (1) - May 13, 2002, 02:41:25 PM EDT
                                             Huh? - (imric) - May 13, 2002, 02:55:53 PM EDT
                     Re: event driven -> ASP.NET - (altmann) - (9) - May 1, 2002, 05:09:29 PM EDT
                         Real GUI's or bust - (tablizer) - (8) - May 2, 2002, 12:55:09 PM EDT
                             I realize... - (altmann) - (2) - May 2, 2002, 02:40:00 PM EDT
                                 question, and Master Image - (tablizer) - (1) - May 2, 2002, 08:51:28 PM EDT
                                     Similar to .NET - (altmann) - May 2, 2002, 11:07:54 PM EDT
                             I find CGI approach wonderfully limiting - (tseliot) - (4) - May 3, 2002, 02:28:33 PM EDT
                                 Agree for the most part... - (ChrisR) - May 3, 2002, 03:15:02 PM EDT
                                 Spank-A-Matic ? - (tablizer) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 11:54:32 PM EDT
                                     Sorry, I misunderstood. - (tseliot) - (1) - May 6, 2002, 12:42:07 PM EDT
                                         The pudding is not even in alpha - (tablizer) - May 7, 2002, 08:22:27 PM EDT

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