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New Note to self - stripper eats nitrile gloves
And once it hits the skin, it turns it all into a fiery rubbery chemical mess that has to be scrubbed out of the folds of the skin as it is eating away underneath.

Gets under the wedding ring as well.
New Good to know
--

Drew
New Yeah, it's bad. Hey AS
Which gloves should I go buy?
New Here's what I've been able to find.
http://www.osha.gov/...eets/mcfsno7.html

Avoid Direct Skin Contact with MC

Wear two pairs of gloves when using MC. The inner glove should be made of polyethylene (PE)/ethylene vinyl alcohol (EVOH), PE, or laminate to prevent MC penetration. The outer glove should be made of nitrile or neoprene to protect against puncture or rips. [Note: Because MC can readily penetrate nitrile and neoprene, wearing just the outer glove will not protect your skin from MC exposure.]

Wear shoulder length gloves, or the longest gloves possible.

Before use, inspect gloves for pin-holes, cracks, thin spots, softening, swelling, and stiff or sticky surfaces.

Change gloves frequently, before breakthrough occurs.

Rotate several pairs of gloves throughout the day.

Let gloves dry in a warm, well-ventilated area at least overnight before reuse.

Wear rubber aprons and boots or shoe covers to prevent MC from getting on your clothes which results in prolonged skin contact with MC.

Wear a face shield or goggles to protect your face and eyes.

Use the washing facilities in your work area to wash off any MC from your hands and face.

Use lots of soap or mild detergent and water to clean grease, oil, dirt, or anything else off your skin. Do not use MC or other organic solvents to clean your skin.


More scary stuff about real-world use of MC is here - http://www.osha.gov/...hazard_alert.html

Here's a couple of examples of "laminate gloves" - http://www.envirosaf...eld-4h-glove.html
http://www.ansellpro...spx?productId=259

I don't know where you can find them in a major store.

Do what you can with tools and try to keep your gloves out of the stuff.

Hope this helps. Be careful and good luck.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Thanks
Don't worry about me dying using the MC based stripper.

4 windows in the room. I have 2 large fans in 2 of them at all times exhausting the room. There is a constant breeze through all the windows, so much that I have to be careful not to let the stripper dry too fast. And I am always using a pesticide face mask when working with it, no initial smell.
New Ok, 1st one done
About time you say?

Heat stripped paint, shitloads of varnish left over, then MC scraped, then MC scraped (lather rinse repeat), and then MC scraped with mineral spirits sprayed. Goopy evil mess goes EVERYWHERE.

Whenever using MC I have multiple glove layers on. Vinyl (MC protect skin), then nitrile (try to resist punctures, vinyl sucks for that), then ANOTHER vinyl layer (protect nitrile gloves, MC eat right through nitrile).

Paint/Pesticide mask. Usually long sleeves, but hey, I like these red stripy burns on my arms, they add character. Really.

Then MC with steel ribbon pot scrubbers. It take a dozen of them to run through one window, they dull out quickly. And when doing this splinters are everywhere and my hand is flying. My PWW performed some surgery to get rid of one the other day.

Then came the dental tools. Heat gun against all seams, slowly work my way around, again and again. Heat gun on nitrile gloves quickly melts them to my hand. Heat gun on rubbery grippy gloves shows up WAY too late, cooking the glove around my hand by the time I realize it.

Then heat gun and steel ribbon scrubbers again.

Then dental scraper on the corners.

Hey M, does it pass, is it OK?
M: Yup.

Ok, you can start staining while I finish the others.

Whew.
New You're a good man. I'm sure she appreciates it.
New "Or how about a nice high-gloss white?"
--

Drew
New >:-)
New Whuh?
Remember those oak tongue and groove floor boards I ripped up from the Craig's List house?

We will be staining the window frames and those boards the same color, somewhat dark. We will use the same color for the floor after it gets sanded.

After the windows are stained, but before we do the floor, the room will be patched and painted royal blue. Ceiling too. We only have to paint the top 1/2 of the room, and any mess I've been making under that level will be ignored.

Then we do the floor.

Then I run 3 boards horizontally around the room (on the floor, at 2 feet, and at 4 feet) to be used as anchor points for the oak "flooring" (now walling).

Those oak boards will be placed on all walls around the room, positioned vertically, 4 feet high. There will no longer be any floor base boards, the oak will go to the floor, and I will cut holes for outlets into them. We will run a pretty board along the top to cap it off.

We have 2 3x5 mirrors (craig's list, FREE) to be placed behind the bed, and I will do the smaller 1x1 squares for the rest of the wall and 2 feet around the corner. In order to place the large mirrors (horizontally), I will place a 2x4 (stained to match, possibly with a bit of wood scroll work) along the wall at the top of the oak. I will cut a lip into it to rest the mirror on. I will place another 2x4 (these 2x4s will be ANCHORED into the concrete wall) above the mirror, with lips both on bottom and top to lock in the mirror and rest another above. I'll put another above that to lock it in, and then ceiling is there.

Any real suggestions or variations?
Expand Edited by crazy April 28, 2013, 05:03:58 PM EDT
New Obviously your way is better
I'm not yet in a house I want to keep long enough to be worth that effort.
--

Drew
New Are you still in the house I visited you at?
Sure was a pretty bathroom with the various scraps pasted to the wall.
New That's the one
Great house, shitty schools.
--

Drew
New Yeah, I remember that decision
Hmm, pay 1/2 as much for a house and send them to private school, or spend double, and they go to a good local one.

Now I'm DONE.
New We're looking for option B right now
And trying to get her parents on board with moving with us. We know we're going to end up taking care of them within 5 years anyway, makes more sense to sell both houses and get something we'll all be comfortable in.

And we've only got a year left before high school, when the price for the schools goes *WAY* up.
--

Drew
     Paint stripping - (crazy) - (42)
         Lots of elbow grease. - (Another Scott) - (26)
             Lead paint? Pheh, I laugh at it - (crazy) - (2)
                 So *that's* how you got your handle, eh? ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     So lead -> crazy || mercury -> mad ? -NT - (drook)
             Have you ever used a heat gun? - (crazy) - (22)
                 I suspect they do that on home repair shows - (drook) - (3)
                     You can't afford Bob with a dental pick - (crazy) - (1)
                         It was on Nantucket - (drook)
                     On the other hand - (crazy)
                 Yes. - (Another Scott) - (17)
                     Festool - (jake123) - (1)
                         rofl. -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Note to self - stripper eats nitrile gloves - (crazy) - (14)
                         Good to know -NT - (drook) - (13)
                             Yeah, it's bad. Hey AS - (crazy) - (12)
                                 Here's what I've been able to find. - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                     Thanks - (crazy) - (10)
                                         Ok, 1st one done - (crazy) - (9)
                                             You're a good man. I'm sure she appreciates it. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                             "Or how about a nice high-gloss white?" -NT - (drook) - (7)
                                                 >:-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 Whuh? - (crazy) - (5)
                                                     Obviously your way is better - (drook) - (4)
                                                         Are you still in the house I visited you at? - (crazy) - (3)
                                                             That's the one - (drook) - (2)
                                                                 Yeah, I remember that decision - (crazy) - (1)
                                                                     We're looking for option B right now - (drook)
         Re: Paint stripping - (pwhysall) - (2)
             Too bad it won't work for you anymore - (crazy) - (1)
                 No need. We had our windows replaced years ago. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
         DOT3/4 brake fluid >:-) -NT - (scoenye)
         Floor mostly gone - (crazy) - (10)
             Hog-nose pliers - (drook) - (1)
                 +1 on that -NT - (folkert)
             not pliers, nippers - (boxley) - (7)
                 Yes, cutters is the way to go. - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
                     Yeah, been using the cutters - (crazy) - (5)
                         Awl ... pound 'em down -NT - (drook)
                         Air nailer projectiles - (scoenye) - (3)
                             Agreed. Drilling is a bad idea. -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Got it - (crazy)
                             Yes... - (malraux)

Beats turning True Believers into Soylent Green. Doesn't it?
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