Nice car: VW Golf 7 Variant Wagon

Post #372,571 by Another Scott 3/15/13 10:58:43 PM Reply	Nice car: VW Golf 7 Variant Wagon http://www.vwvortex....state-introduced/ 71.3 mpg Imperial = 59.4 mpg US. I doubt VWoA will bring the small diesel to the US, but one can hope... August 2013 introduction in Europe, so we probably won't see it in the US until 2014 (and the diesel may be even later). Cheers, Scott.
Post #372,572 by folkert 3/15/13 11:40:26 PM Reply	US citizens... don't want or like or want or like diesels. Really they don't like them either. You know... because they know. -- greg@gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
Post #372,574 by Another Scott 3/16/13 12:18:48 AM Reply	No, VW has no trouble selling diesels. I think that they'll send us the 2.0+ liter TDIs with the DSG transmissions and maybe even 4WD and leather everything, GPS, Sirius/XM, etc., etc., so the only way to get the TDI will be if you want to spend $35k for it. And so they'll get 45 mpg rather than 55+. Kinda like the way they moved the Jetta Sportwagen up market (the base is now $25k and can easily move above $30k with options). (My 2004 TDI Jetta wagon was $21.5k.) :-( Not that I blame them, but I think it's short-sighted. There are enough German luxury car brands here - we don't need another. AFAIK, the only diesels VW has had any difficulty at all selling here in the last decade or so are the V10 Touaregs. It would have been interesting to see if the Phaeton would have sold better if they brought one of the diesel versions over... Cheers, Scott.
Post #372,575 by scoenye 3/16/13 12:32:31 AM Reply	Linky possessed? It pulls down a one line page containing a refresh header pointing to itself. Spin cycle until the stop button is clicked. The rollout day may even be in 2015 as it is being scheduled after the regular Golf's intro in 2014 http://www.4wheelsne...ortwagen-by-2014/ But I don't quite get why VW is muddying the water by calling the US model Jetta Sportwagen. The Jetta is an entirely distinct line in Europe.
Post #372,577 by Another Scott 3/16/13 7:34:59 AM Reply	Weird. The linky works fine on multiple machines here in FF and Chrome. :-/ Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by a 2015 release in the US. It took them a while to release the current SportWagen and I think the TDI version was even a few months after that. But I don't quite get why VW is muddying the water by calling the US model Jetta Sportwagen. The Jetta is an entirely distinct line in Europe. I don't recall the details of the history, but I thought the Jetta was originally developed as a Golf/Rabbit with a trunk for the US because too many people here wanted a trunk. Hatchbacks faded away over time. Wagons have always been more popular in Europe than over here - I'm happy they're still selling them. I don't want an SUV/UAV/Crossover/Truck. I want a car that has reasonable cargo capacity in a small footprint. Audi wagons look nice, but they're so swooppy that they don't have as much cargo room as a boxier wagon like the Jetta. Production of the Bora (Type IV Jetta) began in July 1999. The wagon wasn't introduced until January 2001. If that timeline holds, then the 7 Wagon may not be here until late 2015. :-/ Oh well. Maybe Ford will have something similar, or maybe a diesel hybrid wagon, by then. Competition is good! Cheers, Scott. (Who still isn't looking for a new car for himself, but would like to get rid of J's 2000 Corolla...)
Post #372,592 by scoenye 3/16/13 6:16:19 PM Reply	Looks like they absolutely want cookies I have FF set up not to accept any. I'm used to breakage starting when you need to log in for something, but this is ridiculous.
Post #372,601 by Another Scott 3/16/13 6:41:44 PM Reply	Ah. That makes sense. (I just delete them every day.)
Post #372,590 by Ashton 3/16/13 5:47:22 PM 3/16/13 8:08:57 PM Reply	Still waiting for auto companies to Learn from Amory Lovins: his video demo of his own prototype of **modular sub-assemblies for a complete auto body: Eliminating huge sheet-metal stampers [and $$Cost] Manageable by-hand assembly/gluing==no module too heavy to man-handle Stronger/#, crumple-rates á la cárte Better torsional [and other axes] rigidity [ my Citroëns (DS-series of yore) advertised their superior torsional rigidity/absence of 'shake' in obstacle courses.] And more... ... Then too, unless Car USERS can be weaned from Needing their boxes to look like jewelry--and priced for that meme--NONE of Lovins' et alia SAVINGS can accrue. Might as well bring back '59 Cad tail-fins for those with Murican car-as-spaceship prefs. Fie on VW; they don't even have to deal with a Puritan-based kultur, yet they show no sign of grokking to even-moderation.. all of the above :-/ And for those in my $Class, no Way would I budget $35K for any piece of mobile jewelry; when the Acura Plutocrat becomes chopped-liver ... when gas hits $6+/gal? Back to 2-wheels for all but emergencies/no blizzards in Calif. Ever. ** Yes, of course: costs of resins, currently lazily-dependent upon Dead Dinosaur leavings + related 'OTOH' critiques --this is where that nearly-Useless word [now] Innovation shall be requisite: so START ALREADY! Modrin Car Dinosaurs: expensively-Suited fraidy-cat bumpkins as you all are, once anointed with affluenza on the new yacht. Ed: PS--no es una problema with Safari--this link. Ditto FF--OS X version. fwiw Edited by Ashton March 16, 2013, 05:53:28 PM EDT Edited by Ashton March 16, 2013, 08:08:57 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #372,591 by Another Scott 3/16/13 6:15:09 PM Reply	Did you see that the XL1 is going into production? Stuff like that is coming, slowly. http://www.vwvortex....gets-green-light/ Future mobility is one of the most stimulating topics of our time. The key question here: By how much could the energy consumption of cars be reduced if all the stops were pulled out for efficiency? There is now an answer to this question from Volkswagen. It is the new XL1, with combined fuel consumption of 0.9 l/100 km. No other production car with a diesel plug-in hybrid is more fuel-efficient. Lightweight construction (monocoque and add-on parts made of carbon fibre), very low aerodynamic drag (Cd 0.189) and a plug-in hybrid system - consisting of a two-cylinder TDI engine (35 kW / 48 PS), E-motor (20 kW / 27 PS), 7-speed dual-clutch transmission (DSG) and lithium-ion battery - enable a fuel consumption of 0.9 l/100 km, the new Volkswagen XL1 only emits 21 g/km CO2. Since it is designed as a plug-in hybrid, the XL1 can also be driven for up to 50 kilometers in pure electric mode, i.e. with zero emissions at point of use. The battery can be charged from a conventional household electric outlet. Naturally, battery regeneration is also employed to recover energy while slowing down and store as much of it as possible in the battery for re-use. In this case, the electric motor acts as an electric generator. [...] THE XL1 Â MANUFACTURING High-tech manufacturing: Body of new XL1 weighs just 230 kg / 507 lbs. Monocoque and exterior parts are produced from lightweight CFRP Volkswagen has set up handcrafting-like manufacturing for the XL1 in Osnabrück The XL1 is a car of the future that is being built today. Not only are its technologies pioneering, but also the fact that Volkswagen is producing large parts of the XL1 in lightweight and strong carbon fibre reinforced polymer (CFRP). The monocoque with its slightly offset seats for driver and front passenger, all exterior body parts as well as functional elements such as the anti-roll bars are all made of CFRP. The preferred process for producing CFRP components at Volkswagen is the RTM process (Resin Transfer Moulding). The density of this material or its specific gravity is only around 20 per cent that of a comparable steel exterior skin. The CFRP parts exhibit a level of stiffness and strength that is by no means inferior to that of comparable steel or aluminium parts, yet the exterior skin of the XL1 is just 1.2 mm thick. Innovative RTM process Compared to other methods such as manufacturing CFRP in a prepreg process, CFRP production via RTM is more economical Â with lower costs at higher part volumes Â because it can be automated. The RTM parts are produced in multi-shell, heated and vacuum-sealed tools. This involves injecting liquid resin at high pressure into the tool containing the semi-finished carbon material whose interior has the shape of the part to be produced. The part cures afterwards in the mould. Lots more at the linky. It sounds neat, but it's not coming to the US anytime soon. And even with all the automation and efficiency, it's not cheap (Â50,000 lease only according to the comments, but pricing to be announced in the summer according to this review - http://www.autoblog....ive-review-video/ ). FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #372,607 by Ashton 3/16/13 8:48:12 PM Reply	No didn't.. guess I should get out more Bitchin! even better than I had hoped-for, although the ramp-Up time "no Murican version 'this generation' means: the young-uns of [wtf we call This generation, now.] I lose. So must set sights lower. Even the pricey Lease--depending muchly upon the devil/details of miles-charges--could be a decent cost for those remaining Experts: folks who have to personally cover a large route near-daily, to get other folks out of deep-doo-do, and similar. Anyway, this advanced level of almost-production IS indeed encouraging. Pity that our new Banana Republic gets no [Real] vote on prioritization of deliveries. But unsurprising. Have to go back and adsorb the details; THIS sucker should galvanize some unaccustomed-Thinking across the whole industry (and its next morphing into Hype Modes never before seen.) They WILL lie to us, repeatedly. Of course. But the Intarweb will keep them from joining their superiorsmentors {GOP-LiarsClub/Cheney Shogunate Battalion} Thanks for a soupçon of verifiable Optimism about the CIEIO-Class--at least: the ones who HAVE to grok F=MA. So far I have one redesign 'opinion': I'd like the layout reversed.. let's put that 5.5 KWhr battery/bomb at The Rear, go for fwd accordingly. In a head-on, there are Lots of ergs ready to transform into heat/light/sound, under not so unusual circumstances. Jeez, Could I get a Consulting gig with these Germans? You know: an Outsider just lookin fer loopholes, Son ... lookin fer loopholes ... I Know that WCFields has his still-admirers in that milieu--after all, he was an American, !=Murican.

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