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New Found a great app for android
AIRDROID
AirDroid is a fast, free app that lets you wirelessly manage your Android from your favorite browser
https://play.google....com.sand.airdroid
Works great with my S3 and my MAC
here is a good video
http://www.youtube.c...tch?v=beN5ctW62V8
"Pictures are better then words because some words are big and hard to understand"
Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
New Looks cool, but security?
The only way that works is if you give the site complete access to your phone. Not sure I want to do that with a random company.
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Drew
New What's security got to do with wireless access?
Or phones for that matter.
New Do you have a smart phone?
If not, then realize this, they are a coveted piece that many people/organizations are trying to target for you personal data.

Many people have all their Facebook/Google+/Other contacts in there, with phone numbers, *real* e-mail, even physical addresses.

Also, you might have a credit card or two involved with Google Play or other "for pay" applications (pandora, nytimes, wall street journal, etc)

The new target of today is not the newest latest website... though they still matter, but the Phone in the hands of dumb people that don't care what the warning says... they just want what they want.

Allowing a "random" company to have access to control your phone for you... is not something that is small potatoes. Its the MAIN COURSE. If things are not done properly and transparently and securely... well, you just might as well give all your credit and money to me, since I can use it, rather than some 3rd uninterested party. At least with you giving it all to me, you get the satisfaction that I'll have paid off my House and Hospital Bills, rather than 40 bottles of Champagne for a orgy party.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
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New Re: Looks cool, but security?
Well
1 only use it on you'er home network
2 100,364 have downloaded it no one has complained about the phone getting jacket
so I will use it for now
since I have a mac this has been the best way to transfer stuff
"Pictures are better then words because some words are big and hard to understand"
Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
New Well ...
1 You have to log in to their site to do anything. Unless your PC is communicating with the phone directly -- via bluetooth, maybe? -- everything you do is routed through their servers.

2 Effective diseases don't kill in five minutes. They wait until you've had time to spread them for a week or so first. Same with effective crimes. You don't know you've been ripped off until way later, so you don't associate it with the cause.
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Drew
New Looks like local only based on the 192.x address
http://asset0.cbsist...316137_2870_1.jpg
New Yes... but
Its say the DHCP address your router gives it... for example:

192.168.1.155:8888

*OR*

http://web.airdroid.com which tells the browser to look for the device locally using (I think) Javascript to broadcast for it...

I didn't see any traffic go out once the "web.airdroid.com" address was rendered, everything was aimed at the local network only. I was sniffing using TCPDUMP never saw an external call out past local net, once the page was done rendering.

I might be wrong about this one... for now.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05
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New Hmm ...
So it assumes your device is connected to the same local network. Probably a reasonable assumption most of the time. That's not so bad, then.

But then, I'm the guy who, every time I install an app, I look at the permissions. "Why does a game need to access my phone settings? Nope, no install."
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Drew
New Re: Hmm ...
The "web.airdroid.com" address does that assumption, it appears.

Going straight to the IP address and port on the phone screen gets you right to it directly, no other communication outside.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
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New Not assumes, requires.
New Thanks.
Still, they should be clearer about what it's doing.

I understand that if you want to be able to do anything on your phone from another computer, you need (almost?) full access. But why don't they come out and say "we don't see any of your private data"?

Cheers,
Scott.
New Because technically they can see it.
The apps requires full access to the phone so it can do the things it does. Files Management, Text Messages, running the browser, controlling settings... among other things.

They just haven't done it... but they *COULD* if they wanted to.

Just like President Obama COULD us drones against US Citizens engaged in combat or terrorist acts towards the US Gov't.

Does that mean that Obama will? Perhaps, but only under emergency situations.

Does that mean AirDroid will take your data? Very very very highly doubtful.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05
Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
New Re: Because technically they can see it.
OK: Greg so it's a good app I found ? :-)
"Pictures are better then words because some words are big and hard to understand"
Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
New I already admitted that in post #372288
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greg@gregfolkert.net
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Expand Edited by folkert March 8, 2013, 04:32:45 PM EST
New No you didn't
You said it is not apparently harmful, at least that's how I interpreted.

C'mon, bman is dying for some validation here, and it can only come from you, since you tossed the disparagement and we respect your opinion, even when it is wrong. Did he do good or not?
New Its a fine program, as far as I can tell. For now.
So yes, its a great application, it does what it says it does, although without any real docs telling us how it does it.

As AS kinda put it... they really need to be more transparent on the way things are and remove doubt.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05
Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
New The free app every android owner should install
Gigaom
http://gigaom.com/20...-install-in-2013/
CNET
http://download.cnet...8_4-75627578.html
"Pictures are better then words because some words are big and hard to understand"
Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
New Don't think I'll be trying it.
Their web site seems to be a ghost town. The app was last updated in August. And their web site and user guide don't really say how it works or why they're so unclear about the security settings, etc.

And it's free with no obvious indication of how they plan to make money. That means the users aren't the customers, they're the product.

Maybe I'll change my mind when I get a newer Android device, but ...

Thanks for the pointers and the information. It's been educational for me.

Cheers,
Scott.
New See post 372288
http://forum.iwethey...iwt?postid=372288
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greg@gregfolkert.net
PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05
Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
     Found a great app for android - (Bman) - (19)
         Looks cool, but security? - (drook) - (15)
             What's security got to do with wireless access? - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                 Do you have a smart phone? - (folkert)
             Re: Looks cool, but security? - (Bman) - (12)
                 Well ... - (drook) - (11)
                     Looks like local only based on the 192.x address - (crazy) - (10)
                         Yes... but - (folkert) - (9)
                             Hmm ... - (drook) - (2)
                                 Re: Hmm ... - (folkert)
                                 Not assumes, requires. -NT - (crazy)
                             Thanks. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                                 Because technically they can see it. - (folkert) - (4)
                                     Re: Because technically they can see it. - (Bman) - (3)
                                         I already admitted that in post #372288 -NT - (folkert) - (2)
                                             No you didn't - (crazy) - (1)
                                                 Its a fine program, as far as I can tell. For now. - (folkert)
         The free app every android owner should install - (Bman) - (2)
             Don't think I'll be trying it. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 See post 372288 - (folkert)

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