Post #367,215
12/4/12 8:42:25 AM
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good point in the comments
ÂEvery issue of a new publication has to be downloaded in full before it can be opened; this takes a surprisingly long time, even over a pretty fast wifi connection.Â
ThatÂs due to the choice of the Daily. If there arenÂt that many photos or videos, it can be downloaded pretty quickly. YouÂre writing off the whole medium because the guy who bought MySpace didnÂt understand what would be the best way to deliver the news on a tablet.
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Post #367,229
12/4/12 12:33:07 PM
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Everyone's missing the point
Okay, maybe it's in there, but I don't feel like reading the rest of the comments. :-)
Every major newspaper has their pick of designers and editors who have been to school to learn everything we know about how to make a newspaper look good: whitespace, balance, composition, paragraph structure, etc. And we've been refining those rules for a century.
How long have we been designing for the tablet? How many people have gone to school to learn what little bit we do know?
This is a new medium. We haven't developed any knowledge about it yet. The people doing the work now are inventing the rules on the fly, and they're rarely going to get it right on the first try.
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Post #367,233
12/4/12 12:48:20 PM
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doing it wrong
take your second paragraph. Hand those results to a ui desinger. Take that product and hand it to a dev team that understands bandwidth client/server and presentation. A decent product "might" emerge
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Post #367,235
12/4/12 12:58:43 PM
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Static vs. dynamic
What makes a good static layout is not the same thing that makes for a good dynamic layout. First, there's unknown screen proportions. But leave that aside and there's actual moving content.
A screenshot from a TV broadcast doesn't look anything like a newspaper. Which one should a tablet emulate? When should it emulate one or the other? And why? We're just starting to work on this stuff.
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Post #367,240
12/4/12 1:22:43 PM
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Newpaper tablet application
Should look like newspapers from Harry Potter.
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Post #367,246
12/4/12 1:41:06 PM
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Sure, why not?
Cell phones were modeled off of Star Trek communicators.
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Post #367,247
12/4/12 1:46:58 PM
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Ding ding ding!
Agreed. Keep the white space and add into it the movable stuff.
Though, who am I to talk? I cram upwards of 80 to a 100 terminal sessions and a browser, mail client, IM client, Voice/Video Client, notifications, Weather, shortcuts... plus a background image into my desktop, err three desktops... plus 3 monitors.
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Post #367,244
12/4/12 1:34:06 PM
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outa my depth but
shouldnt the browser have the screen porportions via the useragent? Once the browser/tablet is identified a target template filters content for that tablet.
Back in the ustawuzzes is what we did for phones
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Post #367,270
12/4/12 10:44:08 PM
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Won't work very well.
Keeping that list up to date is a nightmare. iOS alone has ~100 different UA strings. For Android, the OEM browser UA may include the device name, but user installed browsers likely do not. E.g. Firefox makes a distinction between phones and tablets but that is all you get.
CSS can differentiate between screen sizes but that would not help much with content delivery.
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Post #367,272
12/5/12 8:32:11 AM
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thanks, didnt know
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Post #367,248
12/4/12 1:49:07 PM
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Also:
Quit treating my Smartphone like a MOBILE PHONE FROM 5+ years ago!
If I want to go to the FULL SITE... don't redirect me back to the "M" site.
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