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New Re: more info
Doesn't change a thing. They let his house burn down for $75.

The chiselling, grasping shits.

Just lucky there was no-one in the house, I suppose.

I liked this comment:

"Oh yeah, we're a Christian nation alright. Well, except for all that New Testament hippie crap, obviously."
New Maybe not to you
Ding Dong!

Hi there neighbor. Would you like to share my
lovely fire service with me? It cost me a few
million dollars, it has lots of people and shiny
parts, and you might want it to save your house
or life some day.

How much?

Well, we've already got a lot of sunk costs into it,
and our main base of customers are "captive", and we
are paid for, so while it may cost us hundreds per
year per house we serve, we'll cut you a break, and
charge you a MEASLY $75. Even though we have to travel
farther to get to you and every call will cost us
more than the norm.

Nah, don't want.

You sure? This is a TINY price to pay compared
to the service we are providing. If you have a
fire, it can end up costing many thousands
of dollars per hour for some type of fire
response.

Yup, I'm sure. $75 is too much for me. I'd rather
throw the dice.


If you don't pay, we are NOT going to send our pretty
toys and people to save your property or even
possibly your life. If we do show up, it'll be to
hang around and make sure the fire does not jump to
your neighbor's property who has chosen to engage
our service. As a matter of fact, our insurance company
PROHIBITS us from entering the burning property of a
non-customer, so we are well trained to ignore it.
We cannot risk the multi-million dollar lawsuit when
someone sues us for screwing up a "save". We will NOT
help you at all in that situation. Are you SURE you
do not want to pay the $75?

Sure, I'm sure. Now you sound like you are extorting me!
Screw you jack, you ain't getting any money out of me.
F'off.


SLAM!!

Lather rinse repeat this conversation MANY times over
MANY years over MANY people.

You ever run into a burning building for someone who told
you to f'off? Doubt it.
New Re: Maybe not to you
Just invoice the homeowner if the $75 is all that important.

Having private insurance for things that are better off being public services is ridiculous anyway.

Worked example: American healthcare system.
New No
Doesn't work that way.
If it was ONLY $75 after the fact, then NO ONE would pay.
$75 before, $20,000 or more after.
New Pretty much agreed.
Also, who gets billed? The resident or the homeowner? News stories seem to conflate the two. If the owner is billed but the person living there is renting, then...? And vice versa?

Also too: http://rt.com/usa/ne...ay-fire-bell-299/

In a nearby town, Gene Cranick lost his home in a fire last October and says he just forgot to pay his insurance. He begged firemen and offered them money to put out the blaze to no avail while they sat by and watched. He lost four pets and his home in the blaze. In the adjacent community of Blount County, such spontaneous coverage can be purchase if an annual fee of $110 doesn’t seem reasonable. In lieu of the subscription, people there can pay $2,200 for the first two hours that firefighters are on the scene if they forfeit the annual fee.

[...]

Fire Chief Doug McClanahan of Blount County says his own department has revised their policy after that incident in Obion. “Having subscribers is a good thing, but to punish people to the point that you don’t do anything for them is wrong,” he tells The Daily Times.


There are several ways the towns can cover their costs from adjacent jurisdictions. This Galtian 'pay first or burn' policy of South Fulton TN is stupid and needs to be changed.

Cheers,
Scott.
     Public safety? What's that? - (Another Scott) - (21)
         eh? you wreck your car without insurance and we pay for it? -NT - (boxley) - (9)
             Not the same. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 And what about the neighbors? - (mhuber)
             Plenty of jurisdictions around here charge for ambulances. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                 oh, you mean like watching a kid drown because - (boxley) - (5)
                     ? -NT - (drook) - (3)
                         Peter knows exactly what I mean -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                             Re: Peter knows exactly what I mean - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                 No... it wasn't completely different... - (folkert)
                     No, I don't mean that. What made you think so? -NT - (Another Scott)
         That's a very Ankh-Morpork type situation. -NT - (static)
         Actually I might be the only person to disagree - (S1mon_Jester) - (3)
             you're not - (SpiceWare)
             On the other hand... - (Another Scott)
             put the fire out - (Steve Lowe)
         more info - (SpiceWare) - (5)
             Re: more info - (pwhysall) - (4)
                 Maybe not to you - (crazy) - (2)
                     Re: Maybe not to you - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         No - (crazy)
                 Pretty much agreed. - (Another Scott)

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