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Post #350,366 by folkert 11/9/11 7:30:50 PM Reply	SID has... Kernel 3.0.0-6 and nvidia v280.13.really.275.28-1+3.0.0-6 And when they update the kernel now the nvidia kernels also get updated. Seems the dep on each other. greg@omg:~ [0] $ dpkg -l \| grep -elinux-image -envidia-kernel ii linux-image-3.0.0-2-amd64 3.0.0-6 Linux 3.0.0 for 64-bit PCs ii linux-image-amd64 3.0.0+40 Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) ii nvidia-kernel-3.0.0-2-amd64 280.13.really.275.28-1+3.0.0-6 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 3.0.0-2-amd64 ii nvidia-kernel-common 20111104+1 NVIDIA binary kernel module support files ii nvidia-kernel-dkms 280.13.really.275.36-1 NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source ii nvidia-kernel-source 280.13.really.275.36-1 NVIDIA binary kernel module source Sid is a lot better put together lately. But GNOME3 can suck my balls. Gnome-Shell effectively make it unusable for me. I like my desktop the way I like it and stop forcing me to change IDIOTS! Stop push all TABLET ways of doing things. I now use XFCE and enjoy it very much ... in fact as much as I always have and just used GNOME v2 because of post 2.8 being usable... Though XFCE4 is pretty stinking awesome. Yves-Alexis Perez is on top of releases like Stink on Shiitake. Took him less than a day to get new versions of Risetto in place. Nice. Just freaking works now.
Post #350,378 by static 11/9/11 10:55:24 PM Reply	going OT... I'm taking a holiday from GNOME on my work PC. Gone back to WindowMaker for a little while. (I just wish it had a module to do all the dbus shit GNOME does. Then I could use it on my laptop.) Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #350,455 by beepster 11/11/11 12:30:02 PM Reply	Re: going OT... Try XFCE4. It is light, quick and extremely functional. Once Ubuntu and Gnone both went to the dark side...I've switched permanently, much like Mr Folkert. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #350,514 by static 11/13/11 1:42:39 AM Reply	Did a creative Google search... Found a distro called Liquid Lemur. It has an official WindowMaker mode! Downloading an image now... Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #350,523 by crazy 11/13/11 11:38:34 AM Reply	Dowloaded as well Seeding now. I'll test and let you know how it works for me on an older P4.
Post #350,530 by static 11/13/11 3:27:27 PM Reply	It's interesting. But it's clearly an RC1. Image does a kernel panic on my netbook. Probably because I'm booting if off a USB CD-ROM. Damn. Boots okay on my other lappy, though, into a Live Install. I'd forgotten just how different a WindowMaker setup can get. My stars. I want to find a box to install it on. I suspect I'll end up customising it a lot. Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #350,560 by crazy 11/14/11 12:29:12 PM Reply	Very quick on a 2GB P4 Booted via CD. I'll put a disk in and see how it likes the install
Post #350,572 by crazy 11/14/11 2:49:59 PM Reply	Installed, updating 2nd try. 1st time around the update trashed my X configuration. Doing it again for consistency check.
Post #350,581 by static 11/14/11 3:31:46 PM Reply	WM iw light. You don't need a full distro to see that! If I load WindowMaker instead of Gnome on my work Ubuntu, I get nearly a full Gb of memory back. Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #350,627 by crazy 11/14/11 5:23:32 PM Reply	Which is "better"? If the term can be used. XFCE or WindowsMaker? Got a compare and contrast on them? http://liquidlemur.org/
Post #350,640 by static 11/14/11 7:11:22 PM Reply	Haven't spent much time on XFCE. It's the default on my MythTV box, but the vast majority of the time I'm using MythTV, not the window manager. But XFCE strikes me as a lot more like GNOME and KDE. Window Maker's design dates from way before Linux even existed and is a style that would easily baffle if you don't know it. Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/

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