Post #349,173
10/15/11 6:39:01 PM
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I can Siri clearly now...
actually, I cant. I don't own a cellphone and have no intention of starting with an iPhone 4S. That said, though, I find this first consumer-level iteration of AI at such a level of sophistication both gratifying and surprising. I'd long thought it would get here, but if you'd asked me in 2001 (glum at HAL's non-arrival) I would have predicted this kind of tech to arrive in 2020.
At this point I still don't think that HAL will be here by 2020, but I'm going to go out on a limb (rather than an EVA) and predict that there will be extraordinarily sophisticated clusters of automated subroutines in place by then that will pass the Turing Test as this is today understood—because jealous humans will always uproot those goalposts and stagger downfield with them—and that these agglomerations of code will still accomplish feats of apparent language processing without anything we'd identify as an actual thought flickering in their registers. But I'm inclined to believe that by 2040 computer sentience will be recognized, and in retrospect.
cordially,
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Post #349,176
10/15/11 7:14:26 PM
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There are already programs passing the Turing test
In that they are suspected of being human more or as often as real humans are when tested with a classical Turing test.
As far as being actually useful, though, no. Just convincing someone you're human, it turns out, isn't actually the same thing as being capable of rational thought.
There's a lesson in there somewhere...
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
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Post #349,177
10/15/11 7:18:36 PM
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Turing our lifetimes
Just convincing someone you're human, it turns out, isn't actually the same thing as being capable of rational thought.
I was under the impression that this premise had been universally demonstrated during a 96-month test period concluding on 20 January 2009.
cordially,
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Post #349,178
10/15/11 7:19:48 PM
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Woot! :-)
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Post #349,181
10/15/11 9:36:31 PM
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heh, btw who is your congress criiter?
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Post #349,395
10/19/11 9:01:37 PM
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Re: heh, btw who is your congress criiter?
My congresscritter is Barbara Lee, and while I'm a little allergic to some of her lefty pieties, I honor her sole dissenting vote against the so-called "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists," which was one of the Cheney Shogunate's jumping off-points for a whole raft of evils to follow—but this is properly a discussion for another forum.
cordially,
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Post #349,396
10/19/11 9:04:29 PM
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a prediction
I think AI is going to creep up on us while weÂre still laughing at it (by phrasing it so I do not intend to impute to AI a sinister intentional stance), and that weÂll have been conversing with the cloud, chuckling the while at the cleverness of the canned responses, for a few years before it begins to dawn on the technorati that emergent behavior on the worldÂs servers has coalesced into someone home at the other end. A colleague today suggested that this would happen in half a century. IÂm going to say 2030 (with the sirisingularity having come about three to five years earlier), and expect to be called out some years before that for my pessimism.
cordially,
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Post #349,413
10/20/11 8:18:39 AM
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IOW, a Forbin Experiment?
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Post #349,450
10/20/11 4:46:34 PM
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More like this
"Dial F for Frankenstein": http://www.epubbud.c...hp?g=JYQM4VXP&p=5
But I don't expect it to be all-at-once, or hostile.
cordially,
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Post #349,428
10/20/11 11:40:28 AM
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It's quite slick
A few examples. I find that adding new calendar events with Siri is much faster than doing it manually.
http://spiceware.org/gallery/siri
and it has a fun sense of humor. I was showing it to somebody the other day and asked "What's the weather going to be tomorrow?" He started talking when I did and Siri misunderstood our overlapped speech to be "what's <some company> going to be tomorrow?" It brought up the current stock price and say "now Darrell, even I can't tell what the future will bring".
I tried the popular "Beam me up" and it asked "WiFi or 3G?"
other screenshots of fun responses
http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/
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Post #349,430
10/20/11 12:18:34 PM
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Let's put some of those in order
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Drew
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Post #349,441
10/20/11 1:40:06 PM
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Re: It's quite slick
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."
-- E.L. Doctorow
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Post #349,448
10/20/11 4:13:19 PM
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guess Siri's not a "morning person"
One of my friends posted this last night
http://twitter.com/#...767109632/photo/1
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Post #349,532
10/22/11 3:25:23 PM
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fun responses when the 3G connection is wonky
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Post #349,533
10/22/11 3:26:32 PM
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:-)
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Post #351,529
12/1/11 1:10:21 AM
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Siri might hang with the Hottentots..
http://www.rawstory....d-of-an-abortion/
Ask the Siri, the new iPhone 4 assistant, where to get an abortion, and, if you happen to be in Washington, D.C., she wonÂt direct you to the Planned Parenthood on 16th St, NW. Instead, sheÂll suggest you pay a visit to the 1st Choice WomenÂs Health Center, an anti-abortion Crisis Pregnancy Center (CPC) in Landsdowne, Virginia, or Human Life Services, a CPC in York, Pennsylvania. Ask Google the same question, and youÂll get ads for no less than 7 metro-area abortion clinics, 2 CPCs and a nationwide abortion referral service.
Ask in New York City, and Siri will tell you ÂI didnÂt find any abortion clinics.Â
ItÂs an experience thatÂs being replicated by women around the country: despite plentiful online information about actual places to get an abortion, Siri doesnÂt seem to provide it. ItÂs a similar experience for women seeking emergency contraception: in New York City, Siri doesnÂt know what Plan B is and, asked for emergency contraception, offers up a Google results page of definitions.
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UPDATE: Reader Kristen asked Siri ÂWhy are you anti-abortion? and she answered ÂI just am, Kristen.Â
AI morphs --> AC? (Artificial Cant.)
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