Anyone know anything about partitioning Sun boxes?

Post #34,234 by Meerkat 4/2/02 11:28:45 PM Reply	Anyone know anything about partitioning Sun boxes? Sorry for the vague question, just that I have to write a request to get this done, I have no idea what I'm talking about, and anything that would make me sound like slightly less of an idiot would be of great assistance. ie: I don't have to do the partitioning, but I have to know exactly what to ask for. There are some questions I know you can't answer - ie What kind of Sun box do I have to partition? Hopefully someone will eventually clue me in on that. A formal request to 'partition some Sun box, somewhere' might possibly be rejected :) (Yep, I'm also Googling) John, an analyst/programmer who, it seems, suddenly has to learn how to set up the entire system on which he will be developing. Yow.
Post #34,241 by Steve Lowe 4/3/02 2:01:14 AM 4/3/02 2:07:37 AM Reply	Partitioning Karsten has an excellent article on his website about disk partitioning for *NIX systems...I'll try to find it here in a minute. I'm not 100% sure about Solaris, but the command is probably fdisk..start with man fdisk and go from there :) edit: [link\|http://home.netcom.com/~kmself/Linux/FAQs/partition.html\|Article] ----- Steve Edited by Steve Lowe April 3, 2002, 02:07:37 AM EST Expand All History
Post #34,242 by kmself 4/3/02 3:25:01 AM Reply	Re: Anyone know anything about partitioning Sun boxes? That partitioning FAQ is [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html\|here] (now if I can just sell them on it at work....). I haven't messed with Sun boxes much. So...one solution would be to put Linux on it and treat it as a Linux system ;-) Seriously -- the guidelines I give should be reasonably workable. The big delta for Solaris is that /tmp is generally mounted as swap (or vice versa). Otherwise, sizing as I give it should be roughly respectable for Solaris. My preference in general: /, /tmp (or swapfs), /var, /usr, /usr/local, and, for everything else, /home. A lot of shops like to throw additional data under some other mount point. Frankly, I'd as soon create these as "virtual users" under /home (actually real users, which are the project owners, with other means for sharing data, eg: CVS, RCS, or means appropriate to the task. If you've got a slew of users, subpartition out /home according to a decent hashing scheme (eg: /home/a/, /home/b/, /home/c/, ...). For large storage, striping and/or RAID for performance and redundancy, mounted to a single point, is my preference. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand? Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]`
Post #34,244 by Meerkat 4/3/02 5:47:22 AM Reply	I don't think I have that much control And I worded the queston badly, to boot. And as I found out later today it's an irrelevant question anyway. What I was talking about was partitioning the whole machine - into like Dev and Prod, where Dev might get 1 CPU and Prod might get 3, etc, etc. Anyway, I found out this arvo that it's an E250, which is an 'entry level' kinda thing that cannot be partitioned in such a way. So I only look like a bit of an idiot, not a lot. I think. Of course, I cold have just blamed it all on the guy who told me to partition the box, but that won't achieve anything. So. Thanks for yor replies anyway - the disk partitioning stuff could wel come in handy if I get to play with the box that much - a prospet about as scary as it is cool :) On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #34,252 by boxley 4/3/02 9:28:50 AM Reply	Partitioning Sun Boxes Usually means partitioning the hard drives which should be in IMHO / swap mounted on /tmp /local for all the gpl tools that love to go here /opt for all the expensive apps /var *cause all yer logging usually clogs this partition and the first thing I get rid of is /export/home, stupid sun network idea sizes on each part vary by application and of course dont forget the /oracle part if needed. and the multitude of oracle partitions it needs. thanx, Bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #34,336 by Meerkat 4/3/02 7:05:38 PM Reply	So maybe I do need to partition disks after all <whinge> Why must it be so difficult to get proper answers out of people? </whinge> Anyway, if it ends up I do have to do this, I now have some good suggestions on what to do, so thanks in advance! :)
Post #34,341 by boxley 4/3/02 7:31:20 PM Reply	reasoning behind that layout is that with all the 3rd party apps on a different partition than the OS partition, root,usr you can reload the OS and still have all the other stuff there so you dont need a complete restore from tape. Also I like to create a /local/dskchg directory where I store copies of the /etc/passwd /etc/shadow ifconfig output and any other configerable parameters so you dont have to reload all that crap by hand thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #34,344 by Meerkat 4/3/02 7:50:28 PM Reply	Very sound reasoning - I should apply it to my iBook... On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #34,253 by boxley 4/3/02 9:30:19 AM Reply	Partitioning the cpu's Can currently be done on an FT1800 in Hardware and clustering software to do the others. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #34,388 by tjsinclair 4/4/02 9:40:46 AM Reply	Don't forget /opt A lot of software likes to install itself by default there. However, per Karsten's docs (I think I remember this) you can just create a link from /usr/local. Tom Sinclair "Subverting Young Minds Since 03/13/2000" Daggy stepped forward, but only comparatively; in fact, his mates had all, without discussion, taken one step backwards in the choreography of caution. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent)
Post #34,393 by boxley 4/4/02 10:04:33 AM Reply	/opt *for all the expensive apps (its there) TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #34,412 by kmself 4/4/02 1:55:20 PM Reply	Linking /opt I've got two general thoughts on that. One is what I recommend in the partitioning howto -- `ln -s /usr/local /opt`. The other is to create a subdirectory `/usr/local/opt` and link it instead, as the top-level `/usr/local` directory otherwise can get somewhat polluted. This is mostly a question of asthetics. I generally vote against dedicating a partition to `/opt` -- there's a point at which you've chopped things up too much, you're better allocating the space to local and divving it up among well behaved local stuff whether it's in /opt or /usr/local. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand? Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]`
Post #34,414 by boxley 4/4/02 2:00:45 PM Reply	On a solaris box depending on the outfit might have a lot of off the shelf stuff that wants /opt, if you want to do anything useful with GPL it generally wants /usr/local. In the case og a PHB who just discovered that half the business runs on GPL and he just read an article about gates claiming it is evil, demands that all non purchased tools be removed now. I have seen it happen. Just unmount the partition and wait for a climate change. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #34,416 by drewk 4/4/02 2:05:55 PM Reply	Good utility for general partitioning [link\|http://www.thermadyne.com/newsprodspotdetail.asp?div=tdc&id=108\|This] can partition just about anything. === I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make. I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores.
Post #34,456 by folkert 4/4/02 7:17:00 PM Reply	I use one everytime I install or perform.... Body panel replacement on my classic/custom cars I am restoring... And yes, I have to many of those too... `greg, curley95@attbi.com -- REMEMBER ED CURRY!!! Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]`
Post #34,470 by kmself 4/4/02 10:55:00 PM Reply	My preferred partitioning tool for tough jobs is ...[link\|http://doityourself.com/store/6428940.htm\|this little puppy]. The primary advantage being I've never had one blow up on me. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand? Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]`
Post #34,507 by drewk 4/5/02 9:43:00 AM 4/5/02 9:43:40 AM Reply	What ever happened to the word ... ax? I mean really, freakin' "wood splitting maul"? === I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make. I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores. Edited by drewk April 5, 2002, 09:43:40 AM EST Expand All History
Post #34,548 by kmself 4/5/02 6:35:57 PM Reply	That's an Old Word "Maul", that is. It's present in the 1913 Websters that Debian includes with its `dict` package. Dictionary.com has "long heavy hammer" as its primary definition of the noun, with [link\|http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=maul&db=*\|roots tracing back to Middle English]. An axe is designed for cutting. Thin head. I'll bury an axe in a log real quick if I try to split with it. Mauls, OTOH, have a sharp edge but a fat butt, and cleave wood readily. Far faster than a sledge and wedges, if you know how to work them right, particularly on frozen wood. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand? Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]`
Post #34,703 by drewk 4/8/02 10:33:09 AM Reply	Live and learn Guess I'd have known that had I ever split wood. I'm so soft. === I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make. I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores.
Post #34,517 by boxley 4/5/02 10:23:22 AM Reply	sawsall is better TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS

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