Microsoft and NC State.

Post #33,893 by a6l6e6x 3/30/02 11:34:18 PM Reply	Microsoft and NC State. You will not hear this from another source. On Saturday October 23rd, A couple of Charlotte LUG members and I went to North Carolina State University in Raleigh, NC to see a Linux installfest. We are planning to have one in Charlotte in a couple months and no one had ever seen one. There were Red Hat guys there and in fact we got a tour of Red Hat's new building on what is called NC State's Centennial Campus. The University actually has no facilities on this campus. It's more of an incubator office park for entrepreneurs. The 4-story office building, originally built by Lucent before they collapsed in major way, was quite nice. Free sodas and snacks for employees, a gym, nice (Lucent purchased) cubes, nice cafeteria, etc. It beats the warehouse they had in Durham, NC, which I never did see. The Microsoft part, is what they did after Red Hat was "allowed" on campus. They told the University Microsoft would no longer provide any free software "donations". Truth be told, such donations are written off at market prices while costing Microsoft peanuts. "No problem", Microsoft was told, "most of the software was not used by the University and was given away to students, anyway." You've got to love that. Alex "Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -- Neils Bohr (1885-1962)
Post #33,898 by kmself 3/31/02 4:53:38 AM Reply	Clarification ...was that "no problem, we're not going to allow Red Hat on campus, and we're (the University) going to keep getting software bribes from Microsoft", or "no problem, we're going to let RH on campus, and fsck you and the PoS gratis software you're shovelling at us, that we don't use anyway"? `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand? Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]`
Post #33,908 by a6l6e6x 3/31/02 11:13:27 AM Reply	Re: Clarification It's the latter, i.e. "Bug off, who needs you?" Alex "Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -- Neils Bohr (1885-1962)
Post #33,925 by Silverlock 3/31/02 1:56:05 PM Reply	Send it to the Register The best scale for an experimental design is ten millimeters to the centimeter.
Post #33,949 by kmself 3/31/02 7:27:57 PM Reply	Beat you to it ;-) `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/\|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand? Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead. [link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|[link\|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html\|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]`
Post #33,928 by Andrew Grygus 3/31/02 2:09:01 PM Reply	I couldn't resist . . . . puting it up on my [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com/news/M020331.html\|Web site]. Since I haven't seen any quotes from involved University officials, I attributed it to "informed sources". [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #33,935 by a6l6e6x 3/31/02 4:55:20 PM Reply	Some references [link\|http://www.ncsu.edu/it/itd/intheloop/cp-rd4/pt2-i4.htm\|NCSU, Office of the Provost] action plan item in 2000. Add Linux (an open-source operating system) as a supported desktop choice at NC State. [link\|http://www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/2000/press_ncsu.html\|Red Hat PR.] Note they are playing a tune similar to Microsoft's. Also, note who gets [link\|http://www.ncsu.edu/it/open_source/\|top billing] for open source as a local compnay at NCSU. Alex "Never express yourself more clearly than you think." -- Neils Bohr (1885-1962)
Post #33,943 by Andrew Grygus 3/31/02 6:28:13 PM Reply	Oh, so it's much more serious . . . . . than just letting Red Hat into their industrial park. I may need to make some adjustments. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #33,940 by CRConrad 3/31/02 6:08:27 PM Reply	Speaking of references, Andrew, in your... ...CRM piece (IIRC), you say something along the lines of "I said two yers ago that Microsoft was going to buy Great Plains..." [though it could be that you spelled it "Great Planes"] -- wouldn't it be even more impressive if you turned that phrase into a link to the page where you actually said that? Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #33,942 by Andrew Grygus 3/31/02 6:26:35 PM Reply	I do have a reference elsewhere on the site . . . . not to the earliest, but one that was easy to find, I think to a ZDNet talk-back. I'll get it on this one in a bit. Thanks for the suggestion. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

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