What's in the Ubuntu 10.10 release?

Post #334,999 by drook 10/29/10 8:46:01 PM Reply	What's in the Ubuntu 10.10 release? I'm in no hurry to be an early adopter, just wondering if there's any major updates. -- Drew
Post #335,000 by Another Scott 10/29/10 8:55:16 PM Reply	Apparently a few tweaks since 10.04. I haven't kept up with it myself. 10.04 is very good - I've got it on my P7120D - http://www.notebookr...t.asp?newsID=2695 . Here's a review with some info on a late beta of 10.10 - http://www.linuxuser...10-beta-review/1/ HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #335,002 by folkert 10/30/10 12:43:22 AM Reply	I've nto seen much in the way of bad... in fact, much less than any previous release. A whole lotta "WOW!" and not a lotta "OMG THIS SUX!" Many traditionally hateful of new Ubuntu Releases are either quiet or have abandoned Ubuntu. Either way... things just don't have as much whine.
Post #335,003 by drook 10/30/10 1:03:17 AM Reply	So what's the wow? -- Drew
Post #335,005 by folkert 10/30/10 12:48:18 PM Reply	Wow... As in its working the first time for upgrades and works out of the box for new installs on even very new devices/computers. Its different from the last time... and many times before. Yes, there are cases where things don't work, but those are some of those things like EARLY Intel Video Cards that are mostly un-documented and early air cards and some screwed up motherpoard chipsets that even Windows hates.
Post #335,006 by drook 10/30/10 1:14:48 PM Reply	So a good install Is there anything after that that's so compelling I should jump on it now? I'm not interested in being an early adopter any more, so I'm fine with keeping this version for a while. -- Drew
Post #335,007 by folkert 10/30/10 3:09:19 PM Reply	Nope. You'd be good 'til December. About the only thing... Careful about 11.04 anyway... its going to have a big departure.
Post #335,008 by hnick 10/30/10 3:12:36 PM Reply	What does 11.04 do?
Post #335,009 by folkert 10/30/10 3:26:10 PM Reply	Changes... Lots of them. GUI changes to a non-GNOME Shell. Still running GNOME but different Shell and no nautilus etc... "improved" startup system ... Plethora of other minor changes.
Post #335,011 by drook 10/30/10 3:51:51 PM Reply	Got a pointer to a writeup? That's pretty significant. I'd like to preview that. -- Drew
Post #335,012 by folkert 10/30/10 4:53:24 PM 10/30/10 4:54:11 PM Reply	Here: http://www.google.co...+narwhal+features http://www.markshutt....com/archives/478 http://www.canonical...uds-natty-narwhal http://www.downloads...me-default-shell/ http://arstechnica.c...users-in-2011.ars http://www.ubunturoo...u-1104-natty.html Edited by folkert Oct. 30, 2010, 04:54:11 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #335,034 by drook 10/30/10 11:56:27 PM Reply	No more Gnome? Now that is interesting All I can see from the screenshot is that the bottom bar is moved to the left. Kind of makes sense with all the widescreens people are using. I see that it's based on Gnome, how different can it really be? -- Drew
Post #335,042 by folkert 10/31/10 10:33:53 AM Reply	Very. If you want to see/use it get the netbook aimed 10.10. It already has it. Its a seriously simplified UI interface. Sort of like the iPhone and Android UI. Personally, I'll take my Gnome Shell. To me it feels like they are going to what XFCE did years ago.
Post #335,048 by boxley 10/31/10 1:48:39 PM Reply	gnome? gngag Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #335,062 by folkert 10/31/10 9:33:51 PM Reply	Re: gnome? gngag blah GFY.
Post #335,065 by drook 10/31/10 9:56:18 PM Reply	But is it more lightweight? As in more responsive? -- Drew
Post #335,066 by folkert 11/1/10 12:22:42 AM Reply	Perhaps. But it is supposed to have much the same functionality of the Gnome Shell and probably the heft. But then I don't know, I've never used it.
Post #335,072 by Another Scott 11/1/10 12:28:40 PM Reply	Tom's Hardware Review. 42 - I shoulda known that... http://www.tomshardw...t-linux,2774.html Cheers, Scott.
Post #335,073 by folkert 11/1/10 1:00:00 PM Reply	Re: Tom's Hardware Review. Here is right from the last page of the article. Its the info Drook want: The Straight Dope We were beginning to wonder when we'd see Canonical pull off a successful .10 release; the past few Octobers have been pretty rough. When looking solely at the Desktop Editions, Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat is a mild success. Instead of using this October to experiment with half-baked software components, Canonical concentrated on refining the experience introduced in 10.04 LTS. On the other hand, this also means there aren't any killer reasons to upgrade to 10.10 if you're already happy with 10.04 LTS. This really is a tough call. After all of the benchmarks and hands-on experience with Maverick Meerkat, we expected a concise thumbs up or thumbs down versus Lucid Lynx. Instead, what we have here is a mixed bag. Ubuntu 10.10 excels and falls short in an equal number of areas as 10.04 LTS. Therefore, our recommendation must also be a mixed bag. If you're currently using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx and everything works, it might be a good idea to leave your install alone. After running it for six months, we can tell you that Lucid is rock-solid. Only time will tell if 10.10 is as good, and we only had a week with it. So, if reliability is ranked highly on your OS wish list, go with the LTS. But if you're experienced with Linux, or just the type who must have the very latest, there is nothing wrong with choosing Ubuntu 10.10, either. It all comes down to the type of user you are.
Post #335,077 by drook 11/1/10 2:47:06 PM Reply	Great review, thanks for the link Not going to upgrade to 10.10. Looks pretty, but nothing I gotta have. -- Drew
Post #335,079 by jake123 11/1/10 3:51:45 PM Reply	I actually found it to be the best upgrade went from 10.04 to 10.10, and it actually didn't break anything but my custom compiled audio firewire drivers for my focusrite.
Post #335,081 by drook 11/1/10 5:12:49 PM Reply	Faint praise, innit? "It didn't break anything," isn't a reason to upgrade. -- Drew
Post #335,083 by jake123 11/1/10 5:29:34 PM Reply	More praise than I can give the past upgrades They always broke something that I had to fix. This time it only broke the stuff that it could've been expected to break. I also find it quite a bit snappier in the UI on my nearly ten year old laptop...
Post #335,086 by drook 11/1/10 5:40:38 PM Reply	Hmm, that might be worth checking, then I, too, am using old hardware. Not ten years though, good lord. But snappier UI would be nice. Right now I don't know if it's the UI or the DSL that I'm usually waiting on. -- Drew
Post #335,087 by static 11/1/10 6:06:35 PM Reply	I had a 9.10 to 10.04 upgrade that broke nothing. It didn't even do stupid things with the DVB firmware, which previous upgrades have screwed up. Well, misplaced. Of course there's a caveat. I haven't tried the HID event layer for the IR remote yet. :-) Previous upgrades have invariably moved that around. Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
Post #335,089 by crazy 11/1/10 8:02:10 PM Reply	Good timing I installed it yesterday. I'll let you know.

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