The Iran connection to Arafat

Post #33,248 by marlowe 3/23/02 4:07:29 PM Reply	The Iran connection to Arafat [link\|http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nyt/20020323/ts_nyt/a_secret_iran_arafat_connection_is_seen_fueling_the_mideast_fire&printer=1\|Axis is as axis does] Excerpt: EL AVIV American and Israeli intelligence officials have concluded that Yasir Arafat has forged a new alliance with Iran that involves Iranian shipments of heavy weapons and millions of dollars to Palestinian groups that are waging guerrilla war against Israel. The partnership, officials said, was arranged in a clandestine meeting in Moscow last May between two top aides to Mr. Arafat and Iranian government officials. The meeting took place while Mr. Arafat was visiting President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, according to senior Israeli security officials who declined to describe the precise nature of their information. The new alignment is significant for several reasons, American and Israeli officials said. In recent years, Iran's support for terrorism around the world has been on the wane, with the notable exception of its ties to Hezbollah, the militant group that fought for 18 years to expel Israel from southern Lebanon. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Truth is that which is the case. Accept no substitutes. If competence is considered "hubris" then may I and my country always be as "arrogant" as we can possibly manage.
Post #33,250 by Andrew Grygus 3/23/02 4:35:04 PM Reply	And you believe "Israeli intelligence"? They have more credibility than "Soviet Intelligence", "U.S. Intelligence", "North Korean Intelligence", "Enron Executives" or any other disinformation agency? Especially when they reference wonderfully unverifiable "clandestine meetings in Russia" and decline to provide details or supporting evidence? Especially when their words serve their own purposes so nicely? Sheesh, man! It's all right to be a Jingoist, but insulting everyone else's intelligence (and "intelligence") like that isn't going to score points. The only thing certain is that all parties involved are lying through their teeth. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #33,253 by Simon_Jester 3/23/02 5:00:17 PM Reply	Well...Israel's Mossad is the finest Intelligence organization in the world (in my biased opinion. Marlowe may disagree, but US Intelligence organizations tend to rely too much on 'gadgets', imo). That said, the danger is assuming that Israel's goals match our own. Since they don't work for us, they may tell us what they want us to hear rather than what the truth is.
Post #33,256 by Andrew Grygus 3/23/02 6:09:54 PM Reply	I can not consider the word of an organization . . . . that is in the business of spying, lying and assination to be trustworthy no matter how efficient they are at what they do, or who they work for. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #33,344 by Simon_Jester 3/25/02 9:34:58 AM Reply	Hmm..that would knock out... the CIA, NSA, and (possibly) the FBI. <grin> Not that I'm disagreeing mind you. The Mossad (and Israel) have their reasons for telling us stuff... whether or not we listen (or act) on it is another matter.
Post #33,346 by Andrew Grygus 3/25/02 9:49:57 AM Reply	Yes, all three [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #33,356 by boxley 3/25/02 11:33:00 AM Reply	would you consider the words of Arafat? In his public speeches during his last visit to Iran he thanked them for all the money "and other Support" the PA was getting from them. He is a pragmatist, if he needs weapons of war he isnt going to be picky about where he gets them. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #33,275 by Silverlock 3/24/02 1:24:41 AM Reply	And this fits your definition of Truth? I know I shouldn't feed the Jingos, but I couldn't help it. The best scale for an experimental design is ten millimeters to the centimeter.

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