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by static

8/15/10 5:06:08 PM

That's a good point.

You point medoicre programmers at PHP and you get shit programming, which I've seen multiple times. I saw the same thing years earlier with C, COBOL and FORTRAN. At least medoicre programmers can learn how to make the IDE do the clever stuff for them. This would be the same reason corporations like .NET.

That means the Really Interesting Java programming is happening *inside* things like Terracotta.

Wade.

Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.

So I'm preparing my laptop for the roadtrip - (lincoln) - (83) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:43:43 AM EDT

throw linux on it if you just need - (boxley) - (82) - Aug. 14, 2010, 11:39:02 AM EDT

He won't... - (folkert) - (80) - Aug. 14, 2010, 11:47:54 AM EDT

Recommend application development software on Linux - (lincoln) - (79) - Aug. 14, 2010, 02:35:06 PM EDT

Looking from the wrong direction - (drook) - Aug. 14, 2010, 02:57:15 PM EDT

Java. - (malraux) - (9) - Aug. 14, 2010, 03:55:57 PM EDT

Java looks like something worth considering seriously... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:54:57 PM EDT

Thread-jack. - (static) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2010, 03:34:38 AM EDT

java is the new basic - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2010, 09:48:05 AM EDT

Java's worth as a language: - (malraux) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2010, 11:55:59 AM EDT

That's a good point. - (static) - Aug. 15, 2010, 05:06:08 PM EDT

FINALLY - SOMEONE HERE OFFERS A GOOD SUGGESTION! - (lincoln) - (3) - Aug. 16, 2010, 10:19:14 PM EDT

That suggestion was made back then. - (folkert) - (2) - Aug. 16, 2010, 10:26:28 PM EDT

WRONGO! - (lincoln) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:06:58 PM EDT

Google "site:iwt.mikevitale.com C#" works. -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:20:09 PM EDT

jboss spring tomcat - (boxley) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:35:59 PM EDT

oh yeah - (boxley) - Aug. 14, 2010, 10:37:56 PM EDT

On the other hand - (pwhysall) - Aug. 15, 2010, 04:35:33 AM EDT

I said everything I needed to say now and back then. - (folkert) - (64) - Aug. 15, 2010, 11:36:32 AM EDT

You never helped in the first place - (lincoln) - (63) - Aug. 16, 2010, 10:49:56 PM EDT

Poor form, lincoln. - (Another Scott) - (44) - Aug. 16, 2010, 11:11:17 PM EDT

Re: Poor form, lincoln. - (lincoln) - (43) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:11:10 PM EDT

"... and teach himself other stuff." -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2010, 10:18:37 PM EDT

I see you are a victim... - (folkert) - (41) - Aug. 20, 2010, 05:56:19 AM EDT

Go talk to your developers - (lincoln) - (40) - Aug. 21, 2010, 04:09:55 PM EDT

Developers for the company I work for... - (folkert) - (3) - Aug. 22, 2010, 12:09:49 PM EDT

well, I think Hell has frozen over. - (lincoln) - (2) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:25:36 PM EDT

That wasn't your question to me though. - (folkert) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:54:01 PM EDT

Re: well, I think Hell has frozen over. - (folkert) - Aug. 25, 2010, 08:06:37 AM EDT

Did you honestly think... - (beepster) - (35) - Aug. 21, 2010, 09:56:30 PM EDT

Hey, whattaya mean "web company" - (crazy) - (34) - Aug. 22, 2010, 03:59:32 AM EDT

Re: Hey, whattaya mean "web company" - (malraux) - (33) - Aug. 22, 2010, 11:49:25 AM EDT

Re: Attitude... - (folkert) - (26) - Aug. 22, 2010, 11:54:18 AM EDT

Re: Attitude... - (SpiceWare) - (25) - Aug. 22, 2010, 12:40:05 PM EDT

OUCH. - (folkert) - (2) - Aug. 22, 2010, 03:10:42 PM EDT

Re: OUCH. - (lincoln) - (1) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:33:54 PM EDT

Victim with a grudge. - (folkert) - Aug. 24, 2010, 09:04:50 PM EDT

your former employer's HR dept. called me in June - (lincoln) - (21) - Aug. 25, 2010, 09:15:46 PM EDT

Was that more or less than you're getting now? - (pwhysall) - (20) - Aug. 26, 2010, 04:12:35 AM EDT

and is first offer ever final? - (beepster) - (19) - Aug. 26, 2010, 09:55:04 AM EDT

There is no way - (lincoln) - (18) - Aug. 26, 2010, 09:40:18 PM EDT

you going to college? - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 27, 2010, 11:03:49 AM EDT

she does have a job - (lincoln) - (1) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:40:43 PM EDT

that works -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 3, 2010, 10:45:48 AM EDT

You need to re-evaluate. - (beepster) - (11) - Aug. 27, 2010, 12:31:54 PM EDT

Not only that. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 27, 2010, 12:42:21 PM EDT

More good advice that will... - (folkert) - (1) - Aug. 27, 2010, 02:48:07 PM EDT

Re: More good advice that will... - (lincoln) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:48:18 PM EDT

Already have - (lincoln) - (7) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:46:51 PM EDT

Advice. - (folkert) - Sept. 2, 2010, 09:31:31 PM EDT

work is work, good luck -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 3, 2010, 10:47:53 AM EDT

Good luck, Brian -NT - (malraux) - Sept. 3, 2010, 11:11:28 AM EDT

Best of luck. - (hnick) - Sept. 3, 2010, 12:03:43 PM EDT

Good deal! - (beepster) - Sept. 3, 2010, 01:00:09 PM EDT

Excellent news. Good luck! -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 4, 2010, 03:09:20 PM EDT

I don't get it. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 29, 2010, 04:40:50 AM EDT

Post #35342 -NT - (lincoln) - (1) - Sept. 2, 2010, 08:49:34 PM EDT

Best of luck with it! -NT - (pwhysall) - Sept. 3, 2010, 12:52:48 AM EDT

Do you really think - (lincoln) - (5) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:31:02 PM EDT

Attitude flows through. - (malraux) - Aug. 24, 2010, 08:43:00 PM EDT

Let's assume you aren't - (crazy) - (3) - Aug. 25, 2010, 06:53:15 AM EDT

^------- This. -NT - (malraux) - Aug. 25, 2010, 07:15:45 AM EDT

shoot me an email with the specifics - (lincoln) - (1) - Aug. 25, 2010, 09:13:14 PM EDT

Its doesn;t matter your opinion or view of the subject. - (folkert) - Aug. 25, 2010, 10:26:24 PM EDT

It'll work fine - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2010, 05:50:25 AM EDT

and if you want to be a bit more spritely - (beepster) - Aug. 17, 2010, 11:27:16 AM EDT

512? Not a problem. - (static) - Aug. 17, 2010, 06:29:57 AM EDT

my developers reside within shouting distance - (boxley) - (13) - Aug. 17, 2010, 09:08:14 AM EDT

Well, that's not a big shock - (jake123) - (12) - Aug. 17, 2010, 11:43:30 AM EDT

How so? - (drook) - (5) - Aug. 17, 2010, 11:55:00 AM EDT

Well, indirectly quoting an old prof of mine - (jake123) - (4) - Aug. 17, 2010, 12:36:46 PM EDT

no, disagree - (boxley) - Aug. 17, 2010, 01:10:15 PM EDT

Hmm, not sure - (drook) - (2) - Aug. 17, 2010, 01:43:06 PM EDT

Re: maintenance mode - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2010, 02:26:39 PM EDT

Don't think you can plame PHP for that :-) -NT - (drook) - Aug. 17, 2010, 02:49:19 PM EDT

That's a rather negative viewpoint. - (static) - (5) - Aug. 17, 2010, 04:58:18 PM EDT

s/PHP/any programming language -NT - (drook) - (4) - Aug. 17, 2010, 06:08:10 PM EDT

Well, yes. - (static) - (3) - Aug. 17, 2010, 07:01:13 PM EDT

There's a line I remember from back before PHP won* - (drook) - (2) - Aug. 17, 2010, 09:21:40 PM EDT

Indeed. - (static) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2010, 10:43:24 PM EDT

And you can be in and out of a framework at the same time - (drook) - Aug. 18, 2010, 12:36:02 AM EDT

My sofasurfer has 512MB... - (pwhysall) - Aug. 17, 2010, 02:49:55 PM EDT

That's probably the best advice. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2010, 11:52:34 AM EDT

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