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New Wade, your system is blocking my email
<your-email@yceran.org>: host inbound.yceran.org[202.7.94.223] said: 550-This

message contains improperly-formatted binary content. 550-This is often
used by viruses that attempt to infect remote systems. 550-Your mail
software may also have a bug that results in this error. 550 Invalid
content rejected, see <URL:ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2045.txt> (in
reply to end of DATA command)


Didn't get the "binary content" error from anyone else. Not sure what the problem is.
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Drew
New Yes, it will do that.
It's one of the "be very anal"/"follow the RFC closely" switches in Courier. It used to catch a bit of spam, but I haven't looked at the logs for ages. It will usually be high-bit characters, like 'smart' quotes or em dashes in text that isn't declaring itself as 8-bit.

What were you trying to send? Another CLYG newsletter? I can easily turn the setting off.

Wade.

Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
New Probably em dashes
It was the newsletter. I'll have to look into the mailer to see if there's a way to declare the encoding.
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Drew
New Stop using emdashes.....
they aren't cool.

Just use two regular dashes.
New Why are they uncool?
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Drew
New Because.
The encoding makes it look like spam. :P

As if you didn't know.
New The problem is they're the right thing to use.
em dashes have a specific purpose in typesetting that is different from a regular dash, or even two dashes.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New Yeah yeah...
I was just yanking his chain. BUT.

Trying to typeset with HTML/CSS/Whatever"web" is the WRONG thing to do. Use a Typesetting language and a rendering tool that can.
New I don't control the rendering tool
And what typesetting language should I be using to generate my email? If it's not just chain yanking, I'd like to know what I should be using instead.
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Drew
New What *do* you use to build your email?

Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
New Create it in vim
Then I copy from there and paste directly into the database in the mailer app.
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Drew
New That's moderately impressive.
The newsletter comes through as plain-text as well as HTML. The HTML part is fine: it's marked as quoted-printable. The plain-text bit is explicitly 7bit, though. The mailer app should probably be setting that to 8bit (it's already declaring the character set). Or converting emdashes to something else.

Wade.

Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
New Hmm, interesting
I'm hand-crafting the text-only version for now. Some SPAM rules reject mail that doesn't have it. The new version of the mailer app will handle that for me. (Eventually.)

In the meantime, I'll have to look at how it's generating the header/encoding for the text part.
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Drew
New It probably just needs the '8bit' header.
And that would be:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


Wade.

Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
Expand Edited by static July 26, 2010, 07:18:02 PM EDT
     Wade, your system is blocking my email - (drook) - (13)
         Yes, it will do that. - (static) - (12)
             Probably em dashes - (drook) - (11)
                 Stop using emdashes..... - (folkert) - (9)
                     Why are they uncool? -NT - (drook) - (8)
                         Because. - (folkert) - (7)
                             The problem is they're the right thing to use. - (malraux) - (6)
                                 Yeah yeah... - (folkert) - (5)
                                     I don't control the rendering tool - (drook) - (4)
                                         What *do* you use to build your email? -NT - (static) - (3)
                                             Create it in vim - (drook) - (2)
                                                 That's moderately impressive. - (static) - (1)
                                                     Hmm, interesting - (drook)
                 It probably just needs the '8bit' header. - (static)

Naive is one word for it.
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